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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2008, 09:01:41 AM »
You got a couple of 200tqs? Tell us about them i got one of those.
 Why do you think rebuilding that 1100 motor is nothing? If it needed pistons or anything you would have a hard time and some spending to do.
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« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2008, 09:17:13 AM »
Have you got any pics of the 4 door?

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« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2008, 02:40:28 PM »
Why do you think rebuilding that 1100 motor is nothing? If it needed pistons or anything you would have a hard time and some spending to do.

Generally the motor is the least important part of an old car that I would take into consideration when weighing up the cost of a rebuild.   Far more money and problems with locating parts goes into items like trim and rust repairs.

In this case, anyway, the motor ran bearings as a result of a failed oil-pump drive, which I seem to remember was a common weakness on the 1100cc motors?  An insignificant repair, in the overall picture, imho.

The 200Qs are both 1987, one saloon (black with full leather) and one avant (dark blue with 1/2-leather).  I repaired the avant here in NZ in 1989 after it was written off in the UK.  The saloon I think belonged to an embassy in Wellington.  It's difficult to know nowadays what is the right thing to do with them.  Should they be cannibalised as donors for other people's conversions, or should I try to make sure they go to someone who has the interest to keep them intact?  There probably will not be many left soon, at all, so I'm just sitting on them till somebody gives me a proposition for using them that sits well with my conscience.  They were a pretty cool car in their day, but now, sadly, just another big old euro saloon :(



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« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2008, 03:06:33 PM »
I hear vultures taking flight...  :D
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« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2008, 03:18:46 PM »
I hear vultures taking flight...  :D

It's ok.... I have both 200s hidden under camo netting  (or at least a thick layer of pine needles)  ;)


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« Reply #20 on: June 20, 2008, 08:34:34 AM »
Yes you are right the engine is not that much of a biggy compared to some things, I guess i neber think of completely redoing a car like that and just think of it as a car of no real value. Dont get me wrong im the mk1 man I have many of them, but they arnt worth much in this country.
 Thanks for the low down on the 200s good to know where more are, they look a little sad tho dont they. do they still run? i have a very nice saloon that i have spent far to much time and money on really and i still need to sort out its damn brake system :P New bom and then the abs light is showing faults too....groan it just goes on but I do love it when shes rolling and when i give a worked golf a drag down the motorway and they are just left in the dust it makes me happy. Once up and running they are pretty damn fast on a good open road. A twisty one has you battling the weight a fair bit and it gets a little uncomfortable for passengers if there there but they do hang on quite tenaciously.
 Where are you situated? I wouldn't wreak them really as nobody is going to repower coupes with those motors anymore they are just a bit too old and heavy for the amount of work required to fit them in the right hand drive ones that we have here. I know of several folk who have a turbo motor sitting for just such a swap but its never going to happen.
 Use the worst one to keep the best one going..... but i guess youve got a S2 so you dont want to drive an old heap 200 anyway ;)
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« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2008, 06:05:34 PM »
Yes you are right the engine is not that much of a biggy compared to some things, I guess i neber think of completely redoing a car like that and just think of it as a car of no real value. Dont get me wrong im the mk1 man I have many of them, but they arnt worth much in this country.
 Thanks for the low down on the 200s good to know where more are, they look a little sad tho dont they. do they still run?

put a battery in, turn the key and they always run 1st time, no matter how long sitting out in the weather!  The avant was my daily driver for many years, and has close to a 1/2 million miles on it, and still the motor is sound.  Always hot running, and semi-synthetic oils, I think they will go forever!

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i have a very nice saloon that i have spent far to much time and money on really and i still need to sort out its damn brake system :P New bom and then the abs light is showing faults too....groan it just goes on but I do love it when shes rolling and when i give a worked golf a drag down the motorway and they are just left in the dust it makes me happy. Once up and running they are pretty damn fast on a good open road. A twisty one has you battling the weight a fair bit and it gets a little uncomfortable for passengers if there there but they do hang on quite tenaciously.
 Where are you situated? I wouldn't wreak them really as nobody is going to repower coupes with those motors anymore they are just a bit too old and heavy for the amount of work required to fit them in the right hand drive ones that we have here. I know of several folk who have a turbo motor sitting for just such a swap but its never going to happen.

I'm near Christchurch, and yes, as far as projects go, they are way down the list of "will probably never happen".  If I was ever to do it, it would not be a coupe though, but a type-85 saloon. That, I think, would be far more of a 'sleeper'

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Use the worst one to keep the best one going..... but i guess youve got a S2 so you dont want to drive an old heap 200 anyway ;)

most valuable part on any of them is probably a 2-piece genuine exhaust manifold that had been fitted as a replacement on the saloon.  These were hugely expensive (to overcome the common cracked manifold problem).  That probably cost a previous owner around $4000 or more in the 1990s.  I believe it will fit my urq (if that ever needs a manifold) so obviously the manifold alone is worth more than both 200 cars put together!

For those who have never seen one (and I never had until I unknowingly bought the car with it on) they look like the top manifold in this pic:

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« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2008, 12:29:24 AM »
You got a couple of 200tqs? Tell us about them i got one of those.
 Why do you think rebuilding that 1100 motor is nothing? If it needed pistons or anything you would have a hard time and some spending to do.

Dan Brand at Volksworld in Christchurch will more than likely have them new. When  I worked there we bought all the stock of Goldspares when they closed. Lots of Mk1 and late 70's early 80's NOS and OEM hard parts. There were even 2 sets of 100LS NOS hubcaps in the boxes somewhere. Well worth a try, but give him some time to look for it. It's still in boxes mostly.
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« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2008, 09:48:53 AM »
Any pic of this 76 mk 1?
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« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2008, 12:35:45 PM »
Any pic of this 76 mk 1?

umm, nope - it's behind a tractor and under a cover - (more excuses)!

will get some asap

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« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2008, 02:32:47 PM »
Don't post pics. I'll then get an unrational urge to offer you some money.  :-[

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« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2008, 02:35:37 PM »
irrational?
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« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2008, 03:09:56 PM »
The english language sucks.  ::)
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« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2008, 03:21:02 PM »

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« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2008, 03:22:13 PM »
Teaser:

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