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Offline feelou

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RS5 rant
« on: February 28, 2010, 12:40:37 AM »
I have had money down on an RS5 for 3 years. But the car doesn't push any of my hot buttons. Take the highlights from the press release:

  • 450hp and 430Nm is hardly something to get excited about these days. RS4 unveiled five years ago had 420hp and (roll of drums...) 430Nm. Another 10 years and we might see, say, 480hp and 430Nm. That type of output is still less than Merc C63 was pushing out 3 years ago.
  • New trick diff and DSG are fine. I'm certain they will help the RS5 make the numbers on the 'Ring (some claim sub 8:00) but it will put one more layer of gremlins between driver and car. Gone are the heroic heel 'n toe downshifts, the bowel-contracting mid-range torque of old, and the highly predictable ESP-off moments in the rain and snow.
  • It claims low consumption figures, but frankly I don't give a toss. If I wanted to flatter my green conscience (well, if I had one in the first place) I'd drive a Polo 1.1, not an RS that will potter along in 7th gear at 20mph.
  • All of Audi's hype around new-found sportiness and lightweight... 1725kg, for god's sake! And Audi has often been on the optimistic side with its weight claims. No amount of high revving can compensate for high weight and modest torque. This is old-style M3, not RS recipe.
  • As for the looks, it lacks the presence of, say, the RS6. All very subtle and neat, too much so in my view. Lack of signature RS wheels is annoying. This being said, I know they need to be seen in the flesh for a proper impression.
  • 77k Euros (£68k at today's rates) is steep. A lot steeper than the RS4 was, and a lot more than M3, C63, GT-R etc. What for?

Finally, rumours have it that the next M3 will be turbocharged (like M5, X5M, X6M). How ironic.

I've been a big fan of Audi over the years, with one S3, 2 S4s, 3 RS4s (two B5s and now a B7); this is no brand bashing. I feel let down, victim of a bunch of nerds in the marketing department who hold the good Quattro engineers in a dark German dungeon.

End of rant. Had to get this out of my system. PM me if you want my slot. Should be the first in the country.
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Offline le mans

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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2010, 06:06:55 PM »
Have to agree with you feelou, looks a bit underwhelming for the 30th anniversary model to the original Quattro coupe.
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2010, 06:24:29 PM »
Possibly the world has moved on and the raw edged performance car is a thing of the past.................numbers sold  are what count to a manufacturer and if sophisticated handling and performance is what most buyers want, that is what they will make. Also in this pc world understated looks are more an advantage than not.
At the end of the day if you want to be noticed in something tasteless there is still the option of a sporty Commodore or Falcon
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2010, 06:29:15 PM »

At the end of the day if you want to be noticed in something tasteless there is still the option of a sporty Commodore or Falcon


i doubt Feelou wants to be noticed, just wants a cool new car..With some grunt.
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2010, 06:32:53 PM »
i doubt Feelou wants to be noticed, just wants a cool new car..With some grunt.

Well this is obviously not the one so continue looking
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2010, 07:17:46 PM »
All they need to do is a limited run of 500x RS-R models. More boost, harder setup, lighter, a loss leader to harden up the RS brand.

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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2010, 07:27:50 PM »
Maybe the PC brigade has dampened these manufactures ideology, shafted by accountants and the green brigade.

Very soon a new Aston Martin could be run on batteries.............. >:(
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2010, 07:56:19 PM »
Maybe the PC brigade has dampened these manufactures ideology, shafted by accountants and the green brigade.

Very soon a new Aston Martin could be run on batteries.............. >:(

sad but probably true
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2010, 08:31:58 PM »
Feelou works hard/smart and wants a new "drivers" car that is special . . . . . . RS5 fail

Bigger chip for the current then . . . .  ;D
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2010, 10:08:54 PM »
Maybe the PC brigade has dampened these manufactures ideology, shafted by accountants and the green brigade.

Very soon a new Aston Martin could be run on batteries.............. >:(

Not a bad thing for an Aston, means it wont be able to drop oil ;)
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2010, 10:16:31 PM »
You must be able to taste the disapointment.
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 09:12:44 AM »
All they need to do is a limited run of 500x RS-R models. More boost, harder setup, lighter, a loss leader to harden up the RS brand.


I concur.
That'd be the ultimate "driver's Audi" which could give the brand its balls back.
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 10:09:15 AM »
so the RS5 should be called an S5 and the limited edition should be the RS5...
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 10:53:09 AM »
supercharged s4 is probably the one to get then.
tweak it up some and it'll match the rs5 figures - except the weight.
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Re: RS5 rant
« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2010, 11:20:46 AM »
Flabby and soft rules in the modern car world.

 :(

Swap your order for a new 911 GT3 RS.

No softcock roadwarrior there.

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