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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R32 Turbo
« Reply #1300 on: June 23, 2016, 09:10:34 pm »
Some new hardware arrived today in the form of a pair of HGP turbo's and manifolds and an HGP/HPA 3.6 turbo inlet manifold with injectors and fuel rail. Next month will see the new gearbox and transfer case arrive, a DQ500 7 speed dsg.
Thought it a waste of time to try and make the DQ250 from the Passat try to cope with what the engine will be capable of delivering so hence gearbox change as well.
Poor car has no idea whats in store  >:D

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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1301 on: June 23, 2016, 09:16:37 pm »
Exciting 8)

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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1302 on: June 23, 2016, 09:33:39 pm »
Is the dq500 a factory box or a custom mod?
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1303 on: June 23, 2016, 09:37:00 pm »
Factory in RS3, TTRS and a few others. Handles double the torque of the DQ250.
My current train of thought is to swap in full MK5 electronics to make integration easier but that's still a little ways down the track.
Decided best option is to keep stock FSI and run piggy back ecu to run 6 extra injectors and separate fuel supply when on boost.
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1304 on: June 24, 2016, 02:55:14 pm »
Thats going to be mad John. Any idea how how much power it will be putting out?
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1305 on: June 24, 2016, 04:13:00 pm »
Aiming for 650-700 although it should be able to do a lot more
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1306 on: June 24, 2016, 04:31:13 pm »
Std bottem end ok or shiny new  bits in there as well?
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1307 on: June 24, 2016, 05:21:02 pm »
Forged rods / pistons
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1308 on: June 24, 2016, 05:58:36 pm »
Factory in RS3, TTRS and a few others. Handles double the torque of the DQ250.
My current train of thought is to swap in full MK5 electronics to make integration easier but that's still a little ways down the track.
Decided best option is to keep stock FSI and run piggy back ecu to run 6 extra injectors and separate fuel supply when on boost.

Why not tune OEM ECU?
It's more than up to the task to handle your request.
Look at AP's R36TT mk5 R32. He is running north of 700hp and still on OEM management running 10.4 or 10.6 in full street trim last time I checked.
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1309 on: June 24, 2016, 06:53:42 pm »
I will be running oem ecu, MK5 R32 harness with the Passat ECU
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1310 on: October 16, 2020, 01:08:56 pm »
Engine strip downs completed, R36 engine with broken block is completely stripped and my donor crispy fire damaged 3.6 engine also stripped.
Going forward I intend to use the forged BWS crank from the R36 along with the head and cams and put that in to the donor 3.6 block.
Have both side by side to compare but so far they both look identical.
One cylinder on the crispy engine has had water in it but scaping the remains away it doesn't look like the bore is damaged, a light hone will reveal if its ok to use.

Ordered head studs and main studs, have IE rods already so that just leaves pistons to sort.
Current thinking is to use the R36 ECU to run FSI as per standard and some sort of piggy back system to control the 6 other injectors in the manifold under boost.
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1311 on: October 18, 2020, 09:45:04 pm »
The damaged R36.......Block and pan are toast. Hopefully the crank isn't bent. Spins free but dial gauge will tell the story once I place it in the good block.

Stripping engine #2, crispy the fire damaged motor.
Upon a light hone in the cylinder that has had water sitting it turns out the bores are quite worn.
Not huge mileage on this but perhaps wrong oil used who knows. Block will need boring.
On the plus side check out the port sizes!! No wonder these things make epic power.


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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1312 on: October 19, 2020, 09:46:38 am »
Hi John, is this an old project you had parked or have you suffered a recent engine failure? Always interesting to see what you’re up to!

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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1313 on: October 19, 2020, 10:26:46 am »
I've had this engine for many years Jon, the R32T I had in this car was sold 5 years ago and had always planned to put the R36 in but just never really got there till now.
The broken engine I harvested out of a R36 Passat I wrecked many years ago and has sat ever since.
I'll build this up with forged internals as I've got twin turbos to go on it.
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1991 Golf GTI 2.0 TSI swapped
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1314 on: October 19, 2020, 02:10:12 pm »
This car will be something to behold when its done. I'll be watching with interest.  :D
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1315 on: October 19, 2020, 02:41:55 pm »
I concur!

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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1316 on: November 05, 2020, 08:38:41 pm »
The clutch for this project came in today, all I can say is wow!!
I had not heard of this company until I saw them mentioned in a really interesting youtube video and decided to contact them.
Right from the get go their communication and professionalism was outstanding, anyway I placed an order for their twin plate clutch set up and got their input shaft support kit as well.
Unboxing the clutch today it is very very high end, the quality just looks absolutely superb and a shame to hide away in the bell housing.
This particular set is a 2 plate rated at 1200NM torque which should be good on my twin turbo set up.
If anyone is looking for a serious single or double plate clutch contact TTV Racing UK.
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2003 Jetta Coupe soon to be R36TT
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1963 Type 34 Karmann Ghia, turbo 2.0
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1980 1303 Beetle vert, under restoration

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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1317 on: November 05, 2020, 11:30:17 pm »
Does this mean you're no longer going with the DSG?

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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1318 on: November 06, 2020, 06:38:51 am »
Absolutely yes, no more DSG. Don't know what I was thinking considering DSG  8)
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Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk4 Jetta Coupe 4 Motion R36 twin turbo
« Reply #1319 on: November 06, 2020, 07:28:37 am »
Looks very shiny John. Quality.