B8 Audi A5 and S5 tuning options - compared and ranked

[HighPerformanceAudi]

I've put together the power and torque figures from all the (global) tuners who offer tuning for the B8 Audi A5 and S5, and ranked them according to their stated max power output.

Audi A5 tuners ranked

Audi S5 tuners ranked

Hope you guys find it useful!

[RS4]

What an absolute waste of time.
We custom map everything , but even so anyone can make power , especially on a turbo car, and the difference in the numbers is crazy on some of them.
We can wind the power up to play the numbers game, but its about balance and drivability.

Like to see you get 39 bhp from an S5 4.2 V8,

IMHO those figures mean absolutely nothing.

I suspect on the 3.0TFSI there has also been a pulley change on a couple of them.

My 2 cents.

[beeker]

Nice S4 power upgrade!

[80 Vert]

What an absolute waste of time.
We custom map everything , but even so anyone can make power , especially on a turbo car, and the difference in the numbers is crazy on some of them.
We can wind the power up to play the numbers game, but its about balance and drivability.

Like to see you get 39 bhp from an S5 4.2 V8,

IMHO those figures mean absolutely nothing.

I suspect on the 3.0TFSI there has also been a pulley change on a couple of them.

My 2 cents.

But yet you claim 25hp from a 2.8L VR6?? so surely 39hp from a 4.2L V8 would be no problem?
How are the numbers you quote without a dyno proof any different?
Just my 2 cents...........

[RS4]

God you are boring!
We offered the deals out there at $500 for anyone who wanted a new chip to tst, and we have been over and over this , the best result gained was 25bhp.
Looks how old and s**tty the VR6 motor is compared to the highly tuned 4.2 V8.

[80 Vert]

 
"your quote"
Like to see you get 39 bhp from an S5 4.2 V8,
IMHO those figures mean absolutely nothing.


So.......you make no sense at all, claim 25hp from a VR6 but yet you don't believe 39hp from a V8?
Call me boring, its ok with me.

[RS4]

Just that its 11 more than any other tuner can get from the same motor.
If you go back to our original post , and obviously you have , we talk about the max we have seen being 25 bhp on a VR6.
It may have been a crap tune prior to that but that was the result.
The 4.2 V8 is tuned on theory, and to have 11 more than ANY other tuner, and we only claim 28 on it, is outstanding but hard to fathom.
Actually re-reading it , they claim 41 bhp over standard not 39. So thats 13 more than us with exhaustive testing.

Maybe they know something we dont??? or , who knows.

Happy days 

[beeker]

With all respect,

Getting extra power is one thing, getting safe extra power is another.
As a simple example, anyone can increase the rev limit, and get extra power quickly, but look at the potential issues.

I would personally prefer a 'known' map, and one which is slightly conservative and on the safe side.

But, thats just my opinion only.

[RS4]

"known' brand as in what? MTM, Oettinger etc? They are pretty faceless companies who use generic tunes and charge the earth.
All we want to do is have people here who you can talk to, who can give advice, sell you parts from stock rather than importing them yourselves.
We have fully Bosch trained and approved technicians, massively expensive testing facilites, fully warranty backing  and people who you can talk to pretty much any time of the day or night. We also hold stock here for mods, Forge, V-maxx, H&R, Milltek etc. Who else can say that?
Our dealer network is 258 and counting dealers around the world. Just cause we dont have massive advertising budgets doesnt mean we are no good.
Why did EMD drop MTM as a tuning option even though they were an official dealer? Answer: Becasue they were having too many issues with them.

[JDVW]

they can make the 3.0 S5 get more hp than the 4.2? That sounds odd (im no expert but i thought it would be
the other way round)

[rambo_005]

they can make the 3.0 S5 get more hp than the 4.2? That sounds odd (im no expert but i thought it would be
the other way round)

The 3.0T is a Supercharged V6, it replaced the NA 4.2 V8.

[JDVW]

that would explain it then 

[Guy@HP]

"known' brand as in what? MTM, Oettinger etc? They are pretty faceless companies who use generic tunes and charge the earth.
All we want to do is have people here who you can talk to, who can give advice, sell you parts from stock rather than importing them yourselves.
We have fully Bosch trained and approved technicians, massively expensive testing facilites, fully warranty backing  and people who you can talk to pretty much any time of the day or night. We also hold stock here for mods, Forge, V-maxx, H&R, Milltek etc. Who else can say that?
Our dealer network is 258 and counting dealers around the world. Just cause we dont have massive advertising budgets doesnt mean we are no good.
Why did EMD drop MTM as a tuning option even though they were an official dealer? Answer: Becasue they were having too many issues with them.

  wow, David, are you really telling me that you are bigger than "MTM, Oettinger etc" ?? - I have been to both facilities in Germany, and I have seen calibration in progress.

I suggest you visit them both before making statements like that...

HighPerformanceAudi - nice tables & good work for putting it together.

Can I make a suggestion? - try to rank them by the torque outputs, I know for a fact that certain tuners have worked more on the torque numbers on these cars rather than outright HP, and having driven quite a few, I can tell you what is faster in a heavy quattro car - it's the one with the smoother, bigger torque curve - not the peak power spike!

[RS4]

Guy, did i ever say we were bigger than MTM or Oettinger? Nope, and its not the point.
Not sure that APR has 258 worldwide dealers though, never mind.
The point is that just because it has a 'name' that has a huge marketing budget behind it doesnt mean its any better than any other brand or tuner.
Why dont you look after your own affairs rather than telling me about mine and trying to put words in my mouth.

Its not the first time you have had a dig at me on here Guy,

You just look after your own back yard

[Turbo]

i found those above stats to be interesting and pertinent.
we're all smart enough to read between the lines with stats but regardless, it's a public forum and the more information available to everyone the better, no?

somehow RS4, it seems you've taken the thread personally and become defensive about it. spinning your reply into an ad for your company.
(your replies seem heated, maybe i'm misreading the intended tone?)

imo, a big 'name' that has a huge marketing budget is likely to be more reputable and have a proven track-record (no pun intended).
they have more to lose if things go wrong, and more resources to deal with it if it does.
smaller tuners 'may' be just as good but, for peace of mind, many people would rather pay a premium for the confidence that a known brand gives you.

one thing is for sure, the big brands didn't get their good reputations from throwing handbags in internet slagging matches.