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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #75 on: February 02, 2012, 01:35:47 PM »



 8)

http://www.edition38.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=79198&st=0

 Those tyres would roll off the rim at the slightest hint of cornering. Very very stupid. And they look stupid too. ;)
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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #76 on: February 02, 2012, 03:38:46 PM »
Those tyres would roll off the rim at the slightest hint of cornering. Very very stupid. And they look stupid too. ;)

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« Reply #77 on: February 08, 2012, 09:27:32 AM »
Ok. So we got carried away and weighed them both at each corner and we added weight (me) to the front and rear seats and recalculated the weights to work out the percentage split that the weight adds to the front and rear, then I made a spread sheet so I could plug in different weights to see how the balance would be affected.... Yes, I get carried away sometimes...   ::)





So here's the long and short of it for anyone interested.

All weights are in KG, both cars had nearly full tanks of gas onboard - 35L each (weighing 25kg)
My Hardtop is an 1800 and the Cabby is a 1600, also the Cabby has a towbar we'd estimate at another 20kg.

               Front     Rear    Total       
Hardtop:    562      327      889
Cabby:      591      393      984

The weight % splits are useful, if you want to work out what spring weight you need. So if you add eg: a 80kg driver, how much of that weight goes to each axle. etc.

Weight added to Front Seats:
51.63% adds to the Front Axle weight 48.37% adds to the Rear axle weight.

Weight added to the Rear Seats:
17.65% adds to the Front Axle weight 82.35% adds to the Rear axle weight.

Back to the original question then: Which H&R springs to choose?

For my purposes, I'm generally going to weigh under 660kg front axle and most people would weigh under 570kg rear too. 
Here is an example: if I had 2 x 80kg people in the front and 1 x 80kg in the back and a full tank of gas (which is honestly the most load I'm likely to carry. Then my front axle weight would be 659kg and my rear 470kg.

Glad I worked it out now.  8)

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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #78 on: February 11, 2012, 12:44:56 PM »
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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #79 on: February 11, 2012, 01:59:16 PM »
Nice, they suit it well.
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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #80 on: February 15, 2012, 06:31:44 PM »
Cheers   8) I like them a lot. 

My H&Rs are on the way.......... 2 -3 weeks though. meh.

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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #81 on: February 15, 2012, 06:50:10 PM »
looks good! can't wait to see it with the new suspension. interesting about the weights too...
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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #82 on: February 16, 2012, 09:04:01 AM »
I'm pretty curious about the new suspension myself! It's a bit of a stab in the dark how high/low it will sit without knowing if the current springs have sagged or not.  But I'm going for a period OEM+ kinda look anyway, so I'm not after an extreme change. 25 to 30mm would be ideal.

The weights is an interesting issue. Most spring suppliers just offer one spring choice for a given ride height so the choice is easy. H&R are really selling themselves short by not actually explaining how and why you'd choose either of their options. IMO it should put them ahead of other brands for a nice street-sport setup when choosing. 

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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #83 on: February 16, 2012, 09:36:06 AM »
Springs don't sag, that's a myth.
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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #84 on: February 16, 2012, 09:59:40 AM »
Really? Santa Claus?

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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #85 on: February 16, 2012, 11:00:22 AM »
Springs don't sag, that's a myth.

Are you kidding? Yes they do.
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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #86 on: February 16, 2012, 11:45:26 AM »
just like tits!
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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #87 on: February 16, 2012, 12:21:32 PM »
They did in my 346.000km Audi A3.

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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #88 on: February 16, 2012, 11:46:33 PM »
Love the Pirelli Ps - I am having my campaign edition ones sent over from the UK at the moment to go on my tin top - they are by far the coolest wheels  :)
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Re: So tempted. Stumbled upon a MK1 GTI...
« Reply #89 on: February 17, 2012, 07:34:14 AM »
Love the Pirelli Ps - I am having my campaign edition ones sent over from the UK at the moment to go on my tin top - they are by far the coolest wheels  :)

15 inch P's are very cool as well, and very rare.
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