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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2012, 10:58:31 PM »
Kiwi's are allowed to buy land overseas in countries such as China, HK, USA, Aust, UK and even Fiji.

Why should we have a problem when someone buys land in NZ. Fay, who stripped NZ of certain assets could always have bid a "market price".   If we have an issue then we will be going down the USSR path, and should expect all other countries to ban NZ's from purchasing land overseas!!!
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2012, 12:14:55 AM »
I've been somewhat ambivalent about this whole thing.

I'm disappointed that the NZ consortium could not stump up the additional amount required to satisfy the receivers. Fay and Co. have pitched their offer low, based on the present valuation of the properties and related chattels (using their own estimates), with a claim that the Pengxin offer cannot be justified. I always was under the impression that the value is what the purchaser is prepared to pay. Or am I mistaken?

The receivers have a obligation to derive as much value from the assets as they can to satisfy a lengthy list of creditors (without short changing themselves).

As for Pengxin, they from all accounts are looking at it long term and can bear the investment they have proposed. Everything else they're involved seems to be doing okay. They claim have no direct interest at this point in working the land themselves, but will instead lease it back to Landcorp for an as yet undisclosed sum.

While it would be nice for the 'government' to buy the land, it's not their money it's the taxpayers. Pinning the blame on this sale on them is a cheap shot. It's not a political issue, rather a legal one. All the legal boxes have been ticked. Should Key or any of his team try and block the process, they'll be guilty of interfering in the due process of perfectly legitimate business. Neither is this a state owned asset. They're privately owned and operated facilities. I'm satisfied.

What's really sad is that the Crafars and their creditors allowed it to get into the mess that has led to this fracas. As for their track record in animal care, well, let's not go there.
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2012, 09:25:44 AM »
Id rather see the Chinese buy it than Fay Richwhite.
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2012, 11:00:24 AM »
There's that too. He's milked (or bilked) this country plenty himself. He doesn't even live here, but in Switzerland.

But I don't think he was really serious anyway. If he was, he'd find the cash to compete.
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2012, 04:00:11 PM »
The Chinese are rad.
 You heard it first here guys :) :) :)

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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2012, 01:31:01 PM »
I like all the Chinese people I know ???

I don't...  Not all of them anyway.
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2012, 01:58:40 PM »

Yeah, then next time someone has an "important" piece of property for sale, they can just get a Chinese mate to put in a ridiculously high offer, then lobby the govt to pay the same price to stop NZ property ownership going offshore  ::)

not if their 'mate' was tied into a lease agreement before the sale went through.
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2012, 08:51:27 PM »
HEY! HO! LETS GO!

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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2012, 11:17:30 PM »
not if their 'mate' was tied into a lease agreement before the sale went through.

Most buyers don't want to lease the property... that's why they're buying it... anyway, like the government wants (or needs) to take on the expense / hassle / risk of being a farming landlord
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2012, 10:42:56 PM »
So where is the media outrage and the Close Up exclusives over James Cameron purchasing farm land?
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #25 on: February 02, 2012, 11:50:25 AM »
So where is the media outrage and the Close Up exclusives over James Cameron purchasing farm land?

He's not Chinese..  ???
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« Reply #26 on: February 02, 2012, 06:03:10 PM »
The difference here is that Cameron is supposedly coming to live on the farm. Whereas the the Chinese buyers of Crafer Farms have no intention of living there.
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2012, 06:23:59 PM »
The difference here is that Cameron is supposedly coming to live on the farm. Whereas the the Chinese buyers of Crafer Farms have no intention of living there.

 Is that really true? Maybe the actual multi tycoon won't live there but no doubt maybe his sons/daughters or cousin or some relative may want to come live here and run it, possibly hiring as many Kiwis as they can. Who knows really.
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #28 on: February 02, 2012, 07:24:29 PM »
All I know is what I read today. Supposedly him and his wife are moving to NZ and plan to live on the farm. The local Federated Farmers have fully supported his purchase of the land and offered to assist him in any way they can.

He is also about to start a new movie that involves Weta Workshops.
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Re: Crafer Farms sale
« Reply #29 on: February 02, 2012, 09:39:03 PM »
So we know about him but we don't know anything about what the Chinese buyers have in mind for the land and the running of the farms.
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