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volcanoblack

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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2012, 04:31:59 pm »
I have just had a new filter etc and flush done on my S4 trans, to quote the receipt:

"A lot of extra time was spent trying to locate a transmission dipstick or dipstick length. The best solution to obtaining the trans level was from a trans shop that had done a service on one a couple of weeks earlier and had the same problem. His advise was: Fill the trans pan cold, engine running, in park, to the trans pan gasket level which means making up a temporary dipstick to measure."

Hopefully you will take the car back to the trans shop and have them follow the recommended procedure now that user2154 has kindly posted them above.

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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2012, 04:54:35 pm »
What procedure? Can't do anything with those links in the absence of a dipstick.
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2012, 05:11:22 pm »
I have just had a new filter etc and flush done on my S4 trans, to quote the receipt:

"A lot of extra time was spent trying to locate a transmission dipstick or dipstick length. The best solution to obtaining the trans level was from a trans shop that had done a service on one a couple of weeks earlier and had the same problem. His advise was: Fill the trans pan cold, engine running, in park, to the trans pan gasket level which means making up a temporary dipstick to measure."

so what, did they fill your one up to the gasket? seems like too much to me, I dont think I have that much in my one...
1994 Audi UrS6 6-speed manual
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1990 Mk2 Golf, 1994 UrS4, 1990 Audi 80 2.0E Manual, 1990 Audi 80 2.0E donor, 1991 Audi 90 2.3E, 1985 Toyota Corona

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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2012, 05:16:00 pm »
They did, and you are probably right. However it is running excellently with no probs. For a car that is half the value of the Caldina GT I desired, I'm not going to any extra lengths to satisfy curiosity now.
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #34 on: July 17, 2012, 10:03:07 am »
Its not so hard you measure what comes out and put that back in.
 It was common to slightly over fill auto boxes so the fluid covered the valve bodies so if the gaskets were leaking they sucked in fluid and not air.

 Vag people love to think things are more difficult than they really are.
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #35 on: July 17, 2012, 10:19:19 am »
^Good call. It would be mad to not have a factor of safety built into something like this.

Incidentally I am a mechanical engineer.
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2012, 10:36:07 am »
People are so addicted to procedure these days.
 Ok there is good reason for procedure but to then freeze up if you can't follow it is bad.
 If us mechanics went off searching the interweb every time we didn't know exactly how to do something we would never be off it.
 That said I love what I learn from the web.

 I always measure what comes out of gearboxes if they are of the stipulatusmakenotobvious variety.
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2012, 10:44:43 am »
Agree.

Notice I am skirting around the fact that my mechanic didn't measure. I figured no point in lecturing him after the fact.
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2012, 10:57:12 am »
I spend most of my time not doing mechanics so I can then go out and make all the mistakes I pretend I'm better than on the interweb :P

 I'd better go do some car grovelling now :P :P
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volcanoblack

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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #39 on: July 18, 2012, 02:12:27 pm »
What procedure? Can't do anything with those links in the absence of a dipstick.

Open the attachments with Internet Explorer.

The last procedure is for vehicles without a dipstick - and simply involves warming the car up and selecting all gears. Checking the level at the fill plug. Filling to the gasket cold might yield a good level when warm and after using all the gears but I would simply ask the shop to check it via the fill plug hole as described. Here is the text from the ATF Checking doc.

"ATF Level, Vehicles from 5/94, Checking and Correcting
Note:
The ATF level is checked at the ATF check-plug hole.
 
The ATF level is correct if fluid slightly runs out at the ATF check-plug hole with ATF temperature between 35 C and 45 C * See note (caused by the increase in the fluid level during warm-up)."

"After ATF temperature of 35 C is reached, remove ATF check-plug ( - arrow 1 - ) and if necessary drain excess fluid. 
 
If ATF leaks out of ATF check-plug hole before ATF has reached 40 C, ATF level is OK. 
Note: The ATF check-plug must be reinstalled when ATF temperature reaches 45 C * See note."

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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #40 on: July 18, 2012, 06:37:34 pm »
Oh yes sorry I saw all that but my sump has only the drain hole, no side filling hole either. It is a bottom point, ie. does not have a tube running up from it through which to vertically fill. It is the 'in between' models sump.
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #41 on: July 18, 2012, 06:39:08 pm »
God knows why they couldn't just make it easy from the start and stick to that.......
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #42 on: August 23, 2012, 06:57:38 pm »
Good news, i have found a dipstick at one authorized Audi parts dealer in the Czech Republic, so I had my dad buy it form me and I now have it here and it seems to be the right one  ;D
I measured my ATF level and I found out I had well below minimum so I fixed it straight away
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #43 on: August 27, 2012, 03:35:50 pm »
Oooooo may I pay a visit?
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Re: UrS4 auto trans service
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2012, 08:20:07 pm »
we can organize something  8)
1994 Audi UrS6 6-speed manual
2002 Audi Allroad 2.7T
1990 Mk2 Golf, 1994 UrS4, 1990 Audi 80 2.0E Manual, 1990 Audi 80 2.0E donor, 1991 Audi 90 2.3E, 1985 Toyota Corona