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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #40 on: November 11, 2013, 09:23:36 pm »
I've never had any issues with Koni myself - good quality stuff usually.
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #41 on: November 12, 2013, 11:46:04 am »

We had our first decent drive yesterday. Car feels so solid. Front end is a bit soft/bouncy - suspect new shocks needed. Bilstein Sports recommended? Car has no rattles apart from a small one from the glovebox door when idling. There is a slight shudder through the steering at motorway speeds. Something to look into.


Jon, it could just be top mounts? But here is my old shocks quote from Speed.co.nz, it is a few years old now but it should give you an idea:


Genuine Audi Parts -

Front Shocks - 8A0 413 503J - $398.28 INC GST Each (x2)

Rear Shocks - 8A0 513 029 AF - $471.03 INC GST Each (x2)



Bilstein Shocks - 

Front Shocks - PE3-3086 - $315.43 INC GST Each (x2)

Rear Shocks -  BE3-6212 - $439.63 INC GST Each (x2)



Koni Shocks -

Front Shocks - 86-2086SPD2 - $385.56 + GST

Rear Shocks -  8210-1160Sport - $602.28 + GST


The downside to the Bilsteins is that the rear shocks are the same as a B5 and you have to get them regroved and the seating ring lowered so the car doesnt sit high at the rear (should be pics in my RS2 thread).

I honestly dont notice much difference between the Billys in my car and the factory Bodge replacements MJH has in his. If anything the Billys might crash a little more.

Also a big thing to keep on top of is front top mounts, Ive tried different types and the factory Audi ones seem best, and last the longest. The cheaper ones seem to last as little as 3 months where the factory ones last up to 12 months, I am talking a daily driven car though.
SimonS2 has solid top mounts in his S2 which he is happy with, this could be the way to go?

Have you thought about coilovers? I used to be dead against them but an RS2 now has 18 year old springs in it and I wonder how much the spring rates have changed in that time?
I have priced up a set of H&R lowering springs in the last here in NZ, that price came back at an eye watering $900. The bloke said they were the second most expensive spring set he had priced - after a set for an Aston.
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #42 on: November 12, 2013, 02:02:07 pm »
I've got Bilsteins/solid top mounts in the quattro. Got sick of the wear rate of 034Motorsport/Audi Blue top mounts. You get a reminder of the less forgiving nature on something as simple as centreline "cats eyes". The big plus is better turn in, direction, and of course lower wear rate :D
I sourced the B's from Shox.com in California at a very competitive price and the top mounts from the UK
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #43 on: November 12, 2013, 02:26:15 pm »
I've got Bilsteins/solid top mounts in the quattro. Got sick of the wear rate of 034Motorsport/Audi Blue top mounts. You get a reminder of the less forgiving nature on something as simple as centreline "cats eyes". The big plus is better turn in, direction, and of course lower wear rate :D
I sourced the B's from Shox.com in California at a very competitive price and the top mounts from the UK

Where abouts did you get the top mounts John?
Because they are solid I guess the chassis take a bit of a caning.
Im interested cos Im sick of replacing top mounts every wheel alignment.
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #44 on: November 12, 2013, 04:33:58 pm »
Final Touch today by any chance John ?
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #45 on: November 12, 2013, 04:45:26 pm »
Where abouts did you get the top mounts John?
Because they are solid I guess the chassis take a bit of a caning.
Im interested cos Im sick of replacing top mounts every wheel alignment.

I'll dig out the invoice when I get back home this evening Nik.
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #46 on: November 12, 2013, 04:46:00 pm »
I'll dig out the invoice when I get back home this evening Nik.

Great, thanks John.
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #47 on: November 12, 2013, 06:51:37 pm »
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #49 on: November 12, 2013, 10:21:03 pm »
Good info thanks guys. The previous owner told me he'd done the top mounts - OE from Qualitat. Could be gone already then? Previous owner did around 12,000km in the car from memory?

That website Phil pointed me towards did get me thinking about suspension options. They do a complete coilover kit for $1700USD or so, but the adjustable koni dampers by themselves also look tempting. What about bushes, are those something that people have replaced with good results? OE or aftermarket?


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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #50 on: November 12, 2013, 10:29:29 pm »
Final Touch today by any chance John ?
Gordon from Final Touch was working on the car from 9:30am to 4:30pm today. I'm utterly blown away at the results.

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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #51 on: November 13, 2013, 06:46:02 am »
mmmmmm looking very smart 8)
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #52 on: November 13, 2013, 09:22:22 am »
thats NICE!
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #53 on: November 13, 2013, 10:02:51 am »
That's awesome, looks great!
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1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #54 on: November 13, 2013, 01:00:41 pm »
Great job

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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #55 on: November 13, 2013, 01:25:11 pm »
Thats come up great.
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #56 on: November 13, 2013, 06:01:54 pm »
Thank God there's no law against this site!! The car looks great! Be really interested in how you end up tuning the suspension, knowing the issues VW/Audi have with upper/lower arms bushes etc. Lovely car, well done!
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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #57 on: November 13, 2013, 06:28:50 pm »
That spruce up job worked a treat !

Wish the local FT guy was as good.


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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #58 on: November 15, 2013, 09:55:45 pm »
Got the car back from service at Brodie European today. They found a short circuit on the coil pack wiring which was causing an ignition fuse to blow. Car was generally in good shape though. Coolant system pressure tested, leak fixed (loose banjo fittings) and flushed. Brakes bled, oil, filters etc. Car could do with a wheel alignment (steering wheel slightly off centre) and rear brakes will need doing in a year or so. There seems to be an issue with the boost. When on WOT the boost ramps up to about 3000rpm and then seems to back off. I'm trying to get my head around this ECU and some of the plumbing. The software has logging facilities but I haven't delved into that yet.

So this looks like a non-OE part. It has 12V and is plumbed to the waste gate, diverter valve and crank case. So this could be the equivalent of an N75? Can anyone shed some light?

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Re: 1996 Audi RS2 Brilliant Black
« Reply #59 on: November 15, 2013, 11:30:17 pm »
Mac DDBA. Boost control solenoid valve, according to a google search on the visible characters. So yep, N75 alternative.