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Offline Smithy

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #60 on: February 27, 2017, 09:07:17 am »
Km's are up there but a potential bargain for the right person given the listing is over a month old... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/audi/auction-1245662579.htm

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #61 on: February 27, 2017, 09:12:53 am »
Km's are up there but a potential bargain for the right person given the listing is over a month old... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/audi/auction-1245662579.htm

That's been up for almost a year  :laugh:
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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #62 on: February 27, 2017, 09:44:03 am »
Ouch... bluddy Tard Me!!!

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #63 on: February 27, 2017, 11:25:24 am »
Ouch... bluddy Tard Me!!!

Yeah it was already listed for sale when I bought my MTM Stage 2 in May 2016.
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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #64 on: September 13, 2019, 01:11:55 am »
is this an avant MTM? just curious...look at that waste gate? and the air box.....

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #65 on: September 13, 2019, 05:56:30 am »
Yep sure is.
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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #66 on: September 13, 2019, 11:20:48 am »
i asked the guy to go look at it out of interests sake, he's not keen to let people look at it as its in an unsecured yard. i'm getting some more pics sent to my phone when he gets a chance. would have been a wicked car in its day. shame really. could be saved. but yeah, needs everything
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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #67 on: September 13, 2019, 12:59:37 pm »
It's the kind of car if you had space you put it in a corner and leave it until the values increase enough to make it worth restoring. If that never happens it's no great loss, but it might be something in 10 years because of their relative rarity.
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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #68 on: September 13, 2019, 08:16:57 pm »
Be worth the 1k investment if it had the original MTM wheels. They were a cool unit when introduced if not slightly agricultural. Heavy duty clutch was the Audi A4 1.9tdi unit of the day to prevent slip with torque summoned from software upgrade.  NZ was part of the R&D of A4 1.8t quattro MTM as it had issues with adaption of our highest fuel at 96 octane at the pump.
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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #69 on: September 14, 2019, 03:24:58 am »
even though I need another car like I need a hole in my head I am intrigued by this poor thing. all out of stash spots for cars though and cash, and understanding from my other half....
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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #70 on: September 14, 2019, 09:58:42 am »
I see the speedo is stuck on about 200kph
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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #71 on: September 15, 2019, 01:42:18 pm »
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Offline sfkarl

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #72 on: September 17, 2019, 10:53:49 am »
Anything special about the AEB engine in the MTM car? Forged internals? Different compression ratio?
From reading it's mostly turbo, injectors, ECU, airbox etc.
Since this car has a rooted piston I imagine there's a big mess inside not worth fixing.

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #73 on: September 17, 2019, 11:12:40 am »
My understanding is just bolt-on mods and ECU chip. Should be fairly straight forward to swap another engine in. I'm not sure the gear boxes handle the torque all that well so another thing to consider.
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Offline sfkarl

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #74 on: September 17, 2019, 11:21:21 am »
Found another claim that the internals were upgraded at stage 3 - "From my understanding the MTM 286 (really 230) had stronger rods and pistons."

If that's true a stock AEB would get chewed up with the power. And original engine probably highly unrealistic to rebuild.
Coolant in sump sounds like MAJOR block failure and at least 1 piston and conrod destroyed.

Car looks like too much of mess to be bothered restoring. Might be worth something in the far future because rarity, but probably more likely stripped for parts.

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #75 on: September 17, 2019, 12:23:53 pm »
A stock 1.8t should take that power easy. I think they use to say 300-350whp was the max on stock rods  pistons were good for just under 500whp from memory
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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #76 on: September 17, 2019, 05:21:55 pm »
My memory has the mtm 286 with stock Internals, 99.9% sure

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #77 on: September 17, 2019, 09:32:30 pm »
Standard form the A4 1.8t was 150hp...
MTM stage 1 - ECU E-prom = 189hp
MTM stage II - ECU E-prom & cat back big bore exhaust = 210hp
MTM 286hp - as above & upgraded turbo, injectors, fuel pressure reg, airbox. clutch plate Plus bumper and alloys.

EMD performed stage I & II ECU offerings on exchange basis.
All 286hp upgrades were done by Mayer team at his ingolstadt based workshop with the exception of two conversions. EMD tech team did these.

The 210hp package was the best with linear torque curve in my view.
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Offline sfkarl

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Re: 286BHP B5 A4 MTM info?
« Reply #78 on: September 17, 2019, 09:45:56 pm »
Could the go-fast bits be put on a later version of this engine?

eg. 1.8L 20 valve in a 2001 B6 A4 with AMB engine?