Tuning: ME7.1.1 DTC editing/removal???

Worms · October 07, 2016, 09:45:32 PM

Hi Guys,

Possibly a long shot...

Can anyone edit the DTCs on Bosch ME7.1.1 (2006 Golf R32 ecu, 022 906 032 CE)

I want to get rid of the "049409 - No Communication with Transmission Control Module U0101 - 008 - ", because it doesn't have a DSG attached anymore, and the ECU can't be coded to manual trans (I do want to find the manual version too 022 906 032 CD).

Once that code is gone, the ABS code for no trans comms should disappear too, if it's done right.

I want to get the correct, manual ECU, but I'd like to get this code gone for now, so I can at least get a Cert and WOF sometime soon.

Address 01: Engine Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
Part No SW: 022 906 032 CE HW:
Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G 6733
Revision: --H01--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0E3138758
Coding: 0000178
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 50AF5F7AC34786C270-8004

049409 - No Communication with Transmission Control Module
U0101 - 008 -

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60 0102
Revision: 00H13001
Coding: 0004738
Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
VCID: 72EBF5F26D0B94D2A6-8026

01314 - Engine Control Module
013 - Check DTC Memory
01315 - Transmission Control Module
004 - No Signal/Communication

I'm not a complete novice, but I can't get my head around where to find the DTC tables in the hex dumps or anything, and I've already got enough to do! I've manually pulled the SKC by reading the EEPROM with a universal chip reader, so either advice on how to do this, OR if I can send the ECU to someone would be fine. I'd like to be able to do it myself though, just so I can say I did it

Either way though

Thanks,

Allan.

Filx · October 09, 2016, 10:09:27 AM

Might be worth trying to get hold of United Motorsports (UM), from memory their UK based guy has done a lot with ECUs for Mk4 and 5 R32s.

Worms · October 10, 2016, 06:23:18 AM

Quote from: Filx on October 09, 2016, 10:09:27 AM
Might be worth trying to get hold of United Motorsports (UM), from memory their UK based guy has done a lot with ECUs for Mk4 and 5 R32s.

Cheers,

I'll keep that in mind - Hans may be able to help me out too, so we'll see how we get on (after I fix my laptop!).

GLIDN · October 10, 2016, 12:18:28 PM

Flash your existing ECU to a Manual file.
This should rectify your issue.

ECU swapping on the mk5 platform, can be somewhat of a paint to say the least.

80 Vert · October 11, 2016, 09:56:37 AM

You should be able to go in to can gateway and un check auto trans, this will stop the system looking for the dsg.
Did that on our Golf when converting to manual, no re flash needed.
Email me if you need clarification.

GLIDN · October 11, 2016, 02:41:35 PM

Quote from: 80 Vert on October 11, 2016, 09:56:37 AM
You should be able to go in to can gateway and un check auto trans, this will stop the system looking for the dsg.
Did that on our Golf when converting to manual, no re flash needed.
Email me if you need clarification.

This will also work. But errors in the ECU may remain.
As that is what happened in a car that was tuned for me many years ago.
Either way, there are many people on the forum willing to help. So hopefully we can all work together to get it sorted.

80 Vert · October 11, 2016, 08:53:24 PM

For the record there were no errors remaining in ours once reconfigured. You have to look at the install list in can gateway, this list has all the modules the system is looking for.

Worms · October 11, 2016, 10:16:05 PM

I've recoded the gateway, cluster etc to manual, but the engine is still looking for the DSG :-(

The ABS picks up on this, and IT then brings up a missing trans code. Then, of course. the ABS light is on, and I can't get a WOF/cert like that :-(

The engine ECU doesn't accept manual coding, and I've had mixed views on whether it'll take manual software.

I've still got a fair bit to do - the 4-motion isn't anstalled yet either.

Hans thinks he can get the code, but I have to pull the BIN again, first.

My laptop crapped out, so I have to fix that, but I'm building a bench flash loom too - just to make it easy/quick.

I think the R32 ECU's don't hold auto and manual coding, because they don't have the space, where the 4 cylinder ones often seem happier from what I've seen online

I'm wary of installing manual software just now, in case I brick it - I have no spare!

I do have to get another ECU anyway, as I had to repair a couple of earth tracks in this one

and I want an "intact" one eventually, but I'd like this one to play with too :-)

I have an AUdi 3.2 ECU, but it's a bit different, having crypto (4C) Immo, on a different eeprom, and it was DSG anyway. I also don't think it's capable on integrating with the VW immo (4A).

I'll have to get my crap sorted first anyway

Thanks heaps guys!!!

GLIDN · October 12, 2016, 06:13:40 PM

Quote from: Worms on October 11, 2016, 10:16:05 PM
I've recoded the gateway, cluster etc to manual, but the engine is still looking for the DSG :-(

The ABS picks up on this, and IT then brings up a missing trans code. Then, of course. the ABS light is on, and I can't get a WOF/cert like that :-(

The engine ECU doesn't accept manual coding, and I've had mixed views on whether it'll take manual software.

I've still got a fair bit to do - the 4-motion isn't anstalled yet either.

Hans thinks he can get the code, but I have to pull the BIN again, first.

My laptop crapped out, so I have to fix that, but I'm building a bench flash loom too - just to make it easy/quick.

I think the R32 ECU's don't hold auto and manual coding, because they don't have the space, where the 4 cylinder ones often seem happier from what I've seen online

I'm wary of installing manual software just now, in case I brick it - I have no spare!

I do have to get another ECU anyway, as I had to repair a couple of earth tracks in this one and I want an "intact" one eventually, but I'd like this one to play with too :-)

I have an AUdi 3.2 ECU, but it's a bit different, having crypto (4C) Immo, on a different eeprom, and it was DSG anyway. I also don't think it's capable on integrating with the VW immo (4A).

I'll have to get my crap sorted first anyway

Thanks heaps guys!!!

until your ABS is code free, soft coding on the ECU will not work. Had this 2 weeks ago.
Next time I am near a manual R32 I will do a full san log and shared it with you.

That might provide you with some long coding on the ABS and ECU.

Worms · October 12, 2016, 06:41:15 PM

Quote from: GLIDN on October 12, 2016, 06:13:40 PM
until your ABS is code free, soft coding on the ECU will not work. Had this 2 weeks ago.
Next time I am near a manual R32 I will do a full san log and shared it with you.

That might provide you with some long coding on the ABS and ECU.

Any info is GRATEFULLY accpted - Thanks!!!

The R32 gear Ive used is all 2006 stuff - which makes it somewhat easier - it's an MK60 4-motion ABS unit that I got from John (80 vert). It's a short coding one.

I changed the wiring loop to match my brake size, recoded it as required, and it's happy, other than the code for Engine ECU DTCs, and the trans code - I'm 99% sure the trans code disappears from the ABS, if the ECU stops recording that fault.

Here is a recent full scan - the other ABS errors are just from not doing the adaptations yet - still have clutch hydraulics to install when they arrive, so no driving yet, and of course, the haldex is still on my garage floor

:

Code Select

Thursday,15,September,2016,15:41:02:42165
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 7 x64
VCDS Version: 16.8.1.1 (x64)
Data version: 20160902 DS256
www.Ross-Tech.com


VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470   License Plate: 
Mileage: 71120km-44191mi   Repair Order: 



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Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 22 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 72

VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ6W124470   Mileage: 71120km-44191miles

00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
22-AWD -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: Malfunction 0010
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
 
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Address 01: Engine        Labels: 022-906-032-BDB.lbl
   Part No SW: 022 906 032 CE    HW:             
   Component: MOTRONIC ME7.1.1G   6733  
   Revision: --H01---    Serial number: VWZ7Z0E3138758
   Coding: 0000178
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 50AF5F7AC34786C278-8004

1 Fault Found:
049409 - No Communication with Transmission Control Module 
               U0101 - 008 - 
Readiness: 0110 1101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes        Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-A.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AB    HW: 1K0 907 379 AB
   Component: ESP 4MOTION MK60    0102  
   Revision: 00H13001    
   Coding: 0004738
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 72EBF5F26D0B94D2AE-8026

7 Faults Found:
01486 - System Function Test Activated 
            000 -  - 
01279 - Longitudinal Acceleration Sensor (G251) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01423 - Lateral Acceleration Sensor (G200) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
01315 - Transmission Control Module 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 08: Auto HVAC        Labels: 1K0-907-044.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 907 044 BD
   Component: ClimatronicPQ35 090 0808  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 6ADBED9245DB5C1216-803E

No fault code found.

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Address 09: Cent. Elect.        Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-M.lbl
   Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 D    HW: 3C0 937 049 D
   Component: Bordnetz-SG     H37 1002  
   Revision: 00H37000    Serial number: 00000005382893
   Coding: 008D0F210004100000120C000000000000097B075C
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C12D6-807E

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1T0 955 119 C  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer VW358  012  0401  
   Coding: 00063445
   Shop #: WSC 01324  

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags        Labels: 1T0-909-605.lbl
   Part No SW: 1T0 909 605 C    HW: 1T0 909 605 C
   Component: 02 AIRBAG VW62 0506 1500  
   Revision: 09025000    Serial number: 0038BD0H4NRK  
   Coding: 0012338
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 35610EEE5CE5C3EA4B-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenks?ulenmodul 034 0070  
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 76E3C9E2016388F282-8022

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
   Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
   Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 4316  
   Coding: 0001103
   Shop #: WSC 00070 824 83288
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDA65-8066

2 Faults Found:
00771 - Fuel Level Sensor (G) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus
00438 - Fuel Supply Sensor 2 (G169) 
            010 - Open or Short to Plus

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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V1.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 F    HW: 1K0 907 951 
   Component: Gateway         H10 0120  
   Revision:   H10       Serial number: 2800106127113D
   Coding: BD3F0340078003
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 2A5B2D92855B9C12D6-807E

1 Fault Found:
01324 - Control Module for All Wheel Drive (J492) 
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 20
                    Reset counter: 114
                    Mileage: 71127 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2000.00.00
                    Time: 02:45:47


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Address 22: AWD
Cannot be reached

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Address 25: Immobilizer        Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No: 1K6 920 862 F
   Component: IMMO            VDD 4316  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDA65-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 366309E241E3C8F242-8062

1 Fault Found:
00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Driver Side (Z4) 
            012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent

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Address 44: Steering Assist        Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
   Part No: 1K2 909 144 K
   Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.0   D06 1701  
   Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
   VCID: 346733EA579FDAE27C-8060

2 Faults Found:
02546 - Steering Limit Stop 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:
                    Mileage: 1120 km
                    Temperature: 20.0?C
                    Voltage: 12.40 V
                    Voltage: 12.20 V

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85) 
            005 - No or Incorrect Basic Setting / Adaptation
             Freeze Frame:


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Address 46: Central Conv.        Labels: 1K0-959-433-MIN.clb
   Part No: 1K0 959 433 AK
   Component:    KSG              0401  
   Coding: 00C802087F2D8405485FC61010CC
   Shop #: WSC 00010 824 05318
   VCID: 79F9C2DE307DE78AEF-802C

   Subsystem 5 - Part No: 1K0 947 291 F
   Component: Innenraumueberw.009 4809  
   Coding: 00000000
   Shop #: WSC 00000  

   Subsystem 6 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
   Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301

   Subsystem 7 - Part No: 1K0 907 719 C
   Component: Neigungssensor  005 0003

No fault code found.

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN2.lbl
   Part No: 1T0 959 702 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         024 2302  
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 377D04E646E931FA59-8062

No fault code found.

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Address 56: Radio        Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 035 186 P
   Component: Radio GR0       015 0019  
   Revision: 0001503S    Serial number: VWZ2Z2F3751220
   Coding: 0040400
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDA65-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 703 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 326B35F2AD8BD4D26E-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN2.lbl
   Part No: 1K0 959 704 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         021 2428  
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01324 785 00200
   VCID: 336530F65291DDDA65-8066

No fault code found.

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:46)--------------------------

As you can see, the ECU and Cluster are still matched, but both think they are still in a Golf... not a 1T chassis

All in all, I think it's gone really well so far. Should go like a cut cat, once it's able to move under it's own power

I nearly got my bench cable sorted, but the laptop isn't quite sorted, and my desktop is an ancient clunker!

Thanks again!

GLIDN · October 13, 2016, 09:41:10 AM

we chatted a few times on the VCDS forum.

Right... as of now. Do you have any codes in the ABS module?
If there are, it will not allow you to make any changes or code clearing in the ECU.
No idea why thou, it seems specific to the R32 MED ST10 and Golf R MED9 ECU's.

Do you want to decode the haldex from can gateway. Let's purely do this as a test, to get everything to a minimal that there are no errors. (If possible)
Then add one feature at a time, till it faults. Then decode and move on to next coding. Do this till you have most features required other than the last 2-3 things.

Then check to insure, clutch switch, brake light switch etc are all there. Then start coding the likes of the Haldex.

Hopefully this provides some idea on how to proceed.

Sutherland Performance · October 29, 2016, 01:51:50 PM

Where are you based? I should be able to sort this for you if you are in Wellington. Visit http://wellington.quantumtuning.co.nz/to get in touch, Cheers, Joseph.

Worms · November 07, 2016, 06:49:43 PM

Thanks Guys,

I just flashed the ECU with the bin from a CD suffix ECU, which is the manual version. Turns out that doesn't work either! It took out the entire can network, and I had no coms with anything expect the gateway, pretty much.

I flashed it back to the DSG software, and it's back to communicating now.

Obviously there are hardware differences! Grrrr.

I'll try the auto flash, with the trans code deleted for now, and see how that goes.

I need to get another ECU anyhow, because this one has been repaired already, and I don't want it in there long term.

Thanks guys.

GLIDN · November 09, 2016, 09:00:58 AM

Quote from: Worms on November 07, 2016, 06:49:43 PM
Thanks Guys,

I just flashed the ECU with the bin from a CD suffix ECU, which is the manual version. Turns out that doesn't work either! It took out the entire can network, and I had no coms with anything expect the gateway, pretty much.

I flashed it back to the DSG software, and it's back to communicating now.

Obviously there are hardware differences! Grrrr.

I'll try the auto flash, with the trans code deleted for now, and see how that goes.

I need to get another ECU anyhow, because this one has been repaired already, and I don't want it in there long term.

Thanks guys.

How sure are you the file used had been Sum checked? If not, this could also result in this case.

Worms · November 10, 2016, 10:41:54 PM

^^^ It was from the internet... so it must be good, right? :-) There were two manual files I tried, and both were supposedly from stock ECU's, same result. It needs a few other things sorted anyway, so this ECU thing isn't a rush.

In other news..
I drove it to work today.

NEEDS the 4-motion installed! so I'm going to do that next anyway. I know it's not "legal" to drive, but it does have a WOF until March

, so I can test drive it every now and then, to make sure it's A-OK.

Once I get the 4-motion in, it'll remove the other ABS fault code (missing 4WD controller), and once the Trans fault is gone, I can do the system test properly to clear the lights. it NEEDS 4WD and traction control functioning.

With the Auto ECU, it rev hangs somewhat between gears, and it's a little touchy moving from a stop.

A little Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_Fj7KQqUZs

I think I'll focus on the other work for now, and see what comes of this ECU thing as I go. I might find some trick some where... or just have to spring for a manual ECU!

80 Vert · November 14, 2016, 08:07:21 AM

The rev hang is due to it not recognising the clutch position switch, test it with VCDS as to wether it " sees" it.

Worms · November 15, 2016, 10:14:12 PM

Quote from: 80 Vert on November 14, 2016, 08:07:21 AM
The rev hang is due to it not recognising the clutch position switch, test it with VCDS as to wether it " sees" it.

Yeah, I was going to... but it's parked up again now :-)

Rear end is apart, so the 4-motion can go in, and have to make a custom alloy fuel tank

FWD is a COMPLETE waste of time with the R32 lump in there!