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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2017, 01:54:11 pm »
Well I would not add the mk5 R32 in the equation. Mk5 R32 as nice of a car as they are, they have a lot that needs to be upgraded to make them handle as well as they should.

I was providing a direct comparison between 2011-2014 Tiguan R-Line vs MK6R.
Track numbers and corner weights don't lie.


Can you provide us with that info? I would have thought that the centre of gravity on the Golf would be way better.
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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #16 on: January 11, 2017, 02:24:51 pm »
Can you provide us with that info? I would have thought that the centre of gravity on the Golf would be way better.

Tiguan 4Mo is 70 odd KG heavier than a Golf R as well right? Not sure how a heavier, higher riding compact SUV can handle better than a Golf R but also interested to see that info.
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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #17 on: January 12, 2017, 09:41:08 am »
Tiguan 4Mo is 70 odd KG heavier than a Golf R as well right? Not sure how a heavier, higher riding compact SUV can handle better than a Golf R but also interested to see that info.

Never said it's faster, but did say it handled better. Seeing it posts almost the identical times or less than 1 second than a golf R with less power.

Engine sits a little further back and lower as well as doing corner weight. The Tiguan is more neutral.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f177/stage-3-tiguan-build-87730.html
happy reading. It's all explained in the above thread. Even within the first paragraph of the thread.

You will need to drive them to actually feel how much nicer they handle.
The Golf GTI and Scirocco/Audi TT are perfect examples.

The Audi TT/Scirocco all thou have the identical engine, actually sit a little further in the engine bay. Hence both handle better than the Golf GTI.
But with less rear room and lower headspace. Not to mention wider wheel base to add to handling.

Here is a video of the hot tuners challenge taking Harding Performance Tiguan up against a customers Golf R (been driven by a race car driver, all of the cars). Where by Guy harding also explains it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebLJ9fhNRrc
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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #18 on: January 12, 2017, 11:01:06 pm »
Thanks Hennie. That you tube clip made me buy the Tiguan today. Great spec too! Doesn't have Xenons/LEDs but noticed the middle headlights come on when driving...even when the headlight switch is set to off. Is this normal and the DRL equivalent?
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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #19 on: January 13, 2017, 09:04:28 am »
Thanks Hennie. That you tube clip made me buy the Tiguan today. Great spec too! Doesn't have Xenons/LEDs but noticed the middle headlights come on when driving...even when the headlight switch is set to off. Is this normal and the DRL equivalent?

Indeed, that is referred to as the DRL indeed. It can easily be decoded if you don't want that on all the time?
The Tiguan I posted about, I was fortunate to drive a few years ago, along with their Golf R and Mk6 GTI Stage 3 cars.
As soon as I left, the Tiguan was going to be my choice.

Only once in 3 years did I find the right specs but with the 2.0TDI and not the 2.0TSI.
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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #20 on: January 17, 2017, 08:18:28 am »
What is the 2.0 TDi chip options ?
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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2017, 11:22:49 am »
Never said it's faster, but did say it handled better. Seeing it posts almost the identical times or less than 1 second than a golf R with less power.

Engine sits a little further back and lower as well as doing corner weight. The Tiguan is more neutral.
http://www.vwwatercooled.com.au/forums/f177/stage-3-tiguan-build-87730.html
happy reading. It's all explained in the above thread. Even within the first paragraph of the thread.

You will need to drive them to actually feel how much nicer they handle.
The Golf GTI and Scirocco/Audi TT are perfect examples.

The Audi TT/Scirocco all thou have the identical engine, actually sit a little further in the engine bay. Hence both handle better than the Golf GTI.
But with less rear room and lower headspace. Not to mention wider wheel base to add to handling.

Here is a video of the hot tuners challenge taking Harding Performance Tiguan up against a customers Golf R (been driven by a race car driver, all of the cars). Where by Guy harding also explains it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebLJ9fhNRrc

Hennie, you direct comparisons aren't between standard cars so they can't really be compared.
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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #22 on: February 02, 2017, 10:21:02 pm »
Perhaps Nik.

But it's still based on the exact same mods.
Beside no one said that it had to be stock either?

Would personally still pick the Tiguan as its simply a nicer car overall.
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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #23 on: February 02, 2017, 10:26:03 pm »
What is the 2.0 TDi chip options ?

Depending on your ECU you have? Will indicate what options are available. 

But a DSG upgrade also makes a nice difference indeed.

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Re: Replace wife's Craptiva for a Tiguan.
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2017, 12:29:40 pm »
Perhaps Nik.

But it's still based on the exact same mods.
Beside no one said that it had to be stock either?

Would personally still pick the Tiguan as its simply a nicer car overall.

Hennie, standard cars are good base for a comparison. After all most cars are standard.
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