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Offline Fat Fender

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brake failture "workshop"
« on: February 03, 2017, 01:18:18 pm »
Had this pop up today, engine turns over for a spilt second then turns off.


Hope this isnt anything $$$


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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #1 on: February 03, 2017, 03:48:46 pm »
Gonna need a VAG Com on that.
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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #2 on: February 03, 2017, 05:16:22 pm »
Can an admin please move this to mk6, dont no why I placed it under other.


Did a scan, Car turns over but turns off 1sec later so couldn't get full scan done, removed the battery for 5mins and still problem is there.
DSG was stuck in Park too had to manually shift it out.



Chassis Type: 1K (1K0)
Scan: 01 02 03 08 09 10 14 15 16 17 19 25 2E 42 44 46 52 56 62 72
          77

01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
02-Auto Trans -- Status: Malfunction 0010
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000
04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
10-Park/Steer Assist -- Status: OK 0000
14-Susp. Elect. -- Status: OK 0000
15-Airbags -- Status: Malfunction 0010
16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010
17-Instruments -- Status: Malfunction 0010
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
2E-Media Player 3 -- Status: Cannot be reached 1100
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: Malfunction 0010
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
56-Radio -- Status: Malfunction 1110
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 01: Engine
Cannot be reached

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Address 02: Auto Trans
Cannot be reached

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Address 03: ABS Brakes
Cannot be reached

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Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255)       Labels: 5K0-907-044.clb
   Part No SW: 5K0 907 044 BD    HW: 5K0 907 044 BD
   Component: Climatronic   H14 0608 
   Revision: 00003001   
   Coding: 0000000000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Climatronic A01001
   ROD: EV_ClimaAutoBasis_VW36.rod
   VCID: 6EFD31B8B1F449322B-803A

2 Faults Found:
13701376 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Date: 2017.02.03
                    Time: 01:06:00

13701392 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 12
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Date: 2017.02.03
                    Time: 01:06:00


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Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519)       Labels: 1K0-937-08x-09.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 937 086 C    HW: 1K0 937 086 C
   Component: BCM PQ35  M   103 0541 
   Revision: 00103 AE   
   Coding: 40180A3A9825F1C044080080340001E443510088536D8D20648000200000
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3041EFC063401FC279-8064

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E  Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
   Component: Wischer 08090  21  0501
   Coding: 009795

   Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AH  Labels: 1K0-955-559-AG.CLB
   Component: RLS 160909 05  54  0402
   Coding: 0330AD

   Subsystem 3 - Part No: 1K8 951 171
   Component: DWA-Sensor 00  001 0104

   Subsystem 4 - Part No: 1K8 951 605
   Component: LIN BACKUP HO  H09 9002

7 Faults Found:
01504 - Bulb for License-Plate Light (X)
            014 - Defective - Intermittent
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00101110
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 245
                    Mileage: 135674 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.01.16
                    Time: 19:02:16

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

01314 - Engine Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.06.27
                    Time: 01:06:01

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.05 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.06.27
                    Time: 01:06:01

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.05 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

00778 - Steering Angle Sensor (G85)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.06.27
                    Time: 01:06:01

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.05 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

01315 - Transmission Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.06.27
                    Time: 01:06:01

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.05 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

01316 - ABS Control Module
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.06.27
                    Time: 01:06:01

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.05 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF

01309 - Power Steering Control Module (J500)
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.06.27
                    Time: 01:06:02

             Freeze Frame:
                        Term 15 On
                    Voltage: 14.10 V
                        ON
                        ON
                        Term 50 Off
                        OFF
                        OFF


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 10: Park/Steer Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 14: Susp. Elect.
Cannot be reached

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Address 15: Airbags
Cannot be reached

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Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY9.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 CD    HW: 1K0 953 549 CD
   Component: J0527           056 0111 
   Coding: 0001632
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 76CD19D801A471F2E3-8022

   Subsystem 1 - Part No: 5K0 959 542   Labels: 3C8-959-537.CLB
   Component: E221__MFL-TAS   H05 0010 
   Coding: 00000131
   Shop #: WSC 00000 

1 Fault Found:
00002 - Transmission Control Unit
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 17: Instruments (J285)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-17.clb
   Part No SW: 5K6 920 870 B    HW: 5K6 920 870 B
   Component: KOMBI         H05 0206 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   Coding: 170B00
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09 A04040
   ROD: EV_Kombi_UDS_VDD_RM09_004_VW25.rod
   VCID: 3245E5C8654C2DD20F-8066

6 Faults Found:
12648448 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Date: 2017.02.03
                    Time: 01:06:00

12648704 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 5
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Date: 2017.02.03
                    Time: 01:06:00

12656896 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Date: 2017.02.03
                    Time: 01:06:00

12669184 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Date: 2017.02.03
                    Time: 01:06:00

13638912 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Date: 2017.02.03
                    Time: 01:06:00

12671232 - Function Restricted due to Missing Message(s)
          U1111 00 [009] - -
          Confirmed - Tested Since Memory Clear
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 00000001
                    Fault Priority: 6
                    Fault Frequency: 4
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Date: 2017.02.03
                    Time: 01:06:00


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Address 19: CAN Gateway        Labels: 1K0-907-530-V4.clb
   Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 AA    HW: 1K0 907 951
   Component: J533  Gateway   H07 0081 
   Revision:   H07 01    Serial number: 160909F2001796
   Coding: EDA87F06000612000003
   Shop #: WSC 00070 824 83288
   VCID: 66ED49985104817253-8032

3 Faults Found:
01312 - Powertrain Data Bus
            014 - Defective
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01101110
                    Fault Priority: 1
                    Fault Frequency: 2
                    Reset counter: 255
                    Mileage: 140015 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2011.06.27
                    Time: 01:06:01

01304 - Radio
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 254
                    Reset counter: 205
                    Mileage: 131374 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.06.24
                    Time: 22:48:42

03272 - Control Module for Audio Interface
            004 - No Signal/Communication
             Freeze Frame:
                    Fault Status: 01100100
                    Fault Priority: 2
                    Fault Frequency: 1
                    Reset counter: 83
                    Mileage: 131374 km
                    Time Indication: 0
                    Date: 2010.06.24
                    Time: 22:47:41


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Address 25: Immobilizer (J334)       Labels: 5K0-920-xxx-25.clb
   Part No SW: 5K6 920 870 B    HW: 5K6 920 870 B
   Component: IMMO          H05 0206 
   Serial number: 00000000000000
   ASAM Dataset: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09 A03004
   ROD: EV_Immo_UDS_VDD_RM09_VW21.rod
   VCID: 3245E5C8654C2DD20F-8066

No fault code found.

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Address 2E: Media Player 3
Cannot be reached

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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver        Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 701 B    HW: 5K0 959 701 B
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2110 
   Coding: 0000692
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 3147EAC4A84A16CA76-8064

1 Fault Found:
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 44: Steering Assist
Cannot be reached

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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass.        Labels: 1K0-959-702-MAX3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 702 E    HW: 5K0 959 702 E
   Component: Tuer-SG         009 2124 
   Coding: 0000948
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 00200
   VCID: 354FDED45C223AEA2A-8060

1 Fault Found:
01321 - Control Module for Airbags (J234)
            004 - No Signal/Communication

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Address 56: Radio
Cannot be reached

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Address 62: Door, Rear Left        Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 703 C    HW: 5K0 959 703 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 3449E3D0575823E21D-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 72: Door, Rear Right        Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
   Part No SW: 5K0 959 704 C    HW: 5K0 959 704 C
   Component: Tuer-SG         007 2101 
   Coding: 0000144
   Shop #: WSC 01357 011 1012552
   VCID: 354FDED45C223AEA2A-8060

No fault code found.

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Address 77: Telephone
Cannot be reached

End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 01:38)--------------------------
« Last Edit: February 03, 2017, 05:18:59 pm by Fat Fender »

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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2017, 02:42:53 pm »
scan with ignition on, engine off.

you have a LOT of codes there!

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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2017, 03:27:44 pm »
scan with ignition on, engine off.

you have a LOT of codes there!


Engine is off, the engine will not turn on.

Also all the gear selections PRNDS and all blinking. The car beeps 3 times when i turn ignition on, engine turns on for 1 second then turns off. If i want to try starting the engine again i have to remove the key.

Airbag is from me discconeting a cable and not yet resetting it.
Radio is aftermarket also.


From what im reading online it maybe the ABS module is faulty or car immobiliser.

Would the immobiliser be the problem even tho it still locks and unlcoks the doors?
« Last Edit: February 04, 2017, 03:33:05 pm by Fat Fender »

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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2017, 12:12:13 pm »
could be as the immobiliser only stops car from starting

it's usually independent of the car's central locking system.


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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2017, 09:10:18 pm »
Immo allows the car to start, then turns it off after 1 second. It shows no fault though.

The engine ecu should still be in your scan.

You can unplug the ABS, and start it. I hope you have a previous scan, with your ABS long coding though - the coding can disapear from some of these modules!

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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2017, 04:27:59 pm »
the fact your ECU, ABS and DSG shows no communication?
You have a wiring issue most likely.

I would start by checking all fuses and relays the car has.
Check voltages on ECU harness, DSG harness and ABS harness. Thus allowing you to see where the problems could be.

After this, it's going to be more serious.
Without those 3 crucial components? the car will not even attempt to fire.
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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2017, 02:05:46 pm »
the fact your ECU, ABS and DSG shows no communication?
You have a wiring issue most likely.

I would start by checking all fuses and relays the car has.
Check voltages on ECU harness, DSG harness and ABS harness. Thus allowing you to see where the problems could be.

After this, it's going to be more serious.
Without those 3 crucial components? the car will not even attempt to fire.

Been away for a week so back to this problem.

I checked all the fuses under the hood and side panel all fine.
Since my engine will not turn on/stay on would it always say that the ECU, ABS and DSG shows no communication or should it be able to communicate with engine off still?

Been googling and seen a few cars with sort of the same problem, some there engines run fine but show errors, so do what mine does and turn over for 1sec then turn off.

Would the abs module fault stop the car from staying on?


As for unplugging the ABS and checking the ABC, ECU & DSG harness does anyone have a diagram of where they are google hasn't helped much on the mk6.

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Offline GLIDN

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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2017, 06:55:48 am »
yes you will have full communication to all these modules in the ignition on state and Engine off.

that is how I tune the ECU + DSG and recode just about any of the module bar a few setting. which require the engine running.
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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #10 on: February 18, 2017, 12:22:50 pm »
I don't know about the VAG, but some systems may have symptoms like that for low fuel pressure or lack of expected oil pressure signal?
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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2017, 04:54:45 pm »
So after the workshop having my car for 7 weeks they have replaced the abs pump and air bag control module and car seems to be running now.

Am I able to get a confirmation on these prices $3400 for abs module and $1100 for the air bag module.

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Offline The Red Warrior

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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2017, 05:54:04 pm »
So after the workshop having my car for 7 weeks they have replaced the abs pump and air bag control module and car seems to be running now.

Am I able to get a confirmation on these prices $3400 for abs module and $1100 for the abs module.

I'm assuming a spelling mistake at the end. You've got abs module twice.

Offline Fat Fender

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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2017, 06:34:35 pm »
Ty was meant to type ab for air bag.

Offline Fat Fender

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Re: brake failture "workshop"
« Reply #14 on: May 31, 2017, 04:26:37 pm »
Update:

So after 3 months the problem was fixed, the abs module had blown up along with the air bag module.