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Offline jimmyant

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Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« on: June 23, 2017, 03:20:53 pm »
I have a 150 kW Touareg (2011) and was wondering what the real differences are in the motors. Are they physically different or simply have different mapping. :-\

Offline GLIDN

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2017, 08:27:59 pm »
post your engines code up.
I'll look up on my system, then advise more.

these go well once tuned thou.
if that is of interest to you? by all means send me a PM.
happy to help.
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Offline jimmyant

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2017, 10:34:45 am »
Thanks for the reply.
Not quite sure how/where to get engine codes, but on drivers door arch found:
CASD 2695 0334356.
Is that what you need?
Whats involved with tuning?
Cheers
Jim

Offline GLIDN

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2017, 10:17:26 am »
Hey Jim,

In the boot there is a White label usually stuck in or around the spare wheel location.
This will have the full build codes for your Touareg. Included in this label it has your Engine code.

If still unsure? Please send me a message. To continue this discussion.
Thanks
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MK5 GTI DSG - Unitronic Stage 1 | Stage 1 DSG | Unitronic Intake |Tuned by HSP Tuning |
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Offline jimmyant

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 10:33:37 am »
Sorry can't find any label in the boot.
keen to still keep looking for options.
Any other suggestions?
Cheers
Jim

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 12:24:32 pm »
Sorry can't find any label in the boot.
keen to still keep looking for options.
Any other suggestions?
Cheers
Jim
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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2017, 01:04:12 pm »
or take your rego to a dealer and ask nicely for them to print out the build sheet
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Offline jimmyant

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2017, 08:10:36 am »
Found the info in my service book.
Photo of the page attached. :)
Cheers
Jim

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2017, 10:40:14 pm »
that's the sticker needed!!
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Mk3 12v VR6 Variant
MK5 GTI DSG - Unitronic Stage 1 | Stage 1 DSG | Unitronic Intake |Tuned by HSP Tuning |
MK6 GTI DSG -  Unitronic Stage 2 | Stage 1 DSG | Unitronic Intake

Offline jimmyant

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 07:39:19 am »
Hi Glidn,
Any luck with seeing if the set ups for the 150 and the 176 kW motors is the same?

Offline McDoof

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2017, 08:42:24 am »
I don't think it's the same setup, but reading up on it, it should respond well to to a Stage 1 remap. As in around 50kw and 150NM gain putting it at 200kw and 600NM.
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Offline jimmyant

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2017, 01:21:08 pm »
Hi McDoof,
Thanks for the feedback
What is a stage 1 remap, and how does that compare to a stage 2??
Will the TUC handle the extra grunt OK?
Cheers
Jim

Offline McDoof

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Re: Is a 176kW motor simply a 150 remapped?
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2017, 01:58:15 pm »
Stage 1 is software only. It just makes the most of the what installed in the car already. This is where you will find the bulk of your gains. It should cost up to around $1200
Part of the reason the 150kw motor has some decent gains, is that is detuned for low emissions and better economy from the factory. (Assuming you have the Bluemotion variant)
Stage 2 generally includes some hardware changes, such as a high flow down pipe and a bigger free flowing exhaust. Also the removal of the DPF to allow the beast to breath. While this will give you a better spool response and some more power over a stage 1, the difference will not be nearly as big and the cost will be a lot higher. Also with the removal of the DPF you will start to see some smoke under acceleration. Also with the vehicle being a 2011 you could get into  a bit of trouble for removing parts of the emission hardware.
Yes the gearbox should not have any issues with the extra torque.
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