Audi TT 3.2 Exhaust Options

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heylinb4nz

Quote from: McDoof on July 27, 2017, 02:45:25 PM
Magnaflow sounds nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WANDvrf5ua8

Agree, caters for the deeper sporty end of the sound spectrum...sounds nice, but it runs the whole rpm range, in that regards I think the factory system is great in that it covers a full range from deep sporty burbling sound under load in mid range rpm and that roaring\screaming\raspy sound at high rpm....just needs a little more noise at low rpm and a bit of a sound increase across the board to make it heard a little more.

McDoof

Hope you get the sound you are after
My Legacy sounded like this. Quiet when cruising but let you know that there was something going on when you gave it some stick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD_4X4pum50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8RJ9CgaAQ

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heylinb4nz

Quote from: McDoof on July 27, 2017, 04:28:20 PM
Hope you get the sound you are after
My Legacy sounded like this. Quiet when cruising but let you know that there was something going on when you gave it some stick.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD_4X4pum50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8RJ9CgaAQ

Love the 3.0R, almost got one before discovering the joys of German cars, otherwise would be in a modded 3.0R now. Planned to do headers, exhaust, intake and remap...apprently good for around 210KW of NA goodness (gain of 30kw over stock, and same as a stock 2L turbo manual)

McDoof

Quote from: heylinb4nz on July 27, 2017, 05:02:42 PM
Love the 3.0R, almost got one before discovering the joys of German cars, otherwise would be in a modded 3.0R now. Planned to do headers, exhaust, intake and remap...apprently good for around 210KW of NA goodness (gain of 30kw over stock, and same as a stock 2L turbo manual)

Yea, mine was around 210kw. 165awkw on the dyno. Linear power delivery and a torque curve so flat you could eat off it. Best engine I have had to date. The problem I had with the Legacy is that it's an "almost" car and needs a lot of tweaking to make it a really good car. I could just see myself pouring more and more money into it.
ECU remap alone sorts out pretty 90% of all the engine issues if it's done right. The tuner I was using even worked with me to to get the exhaust note right.
But it needs more supportive seats, better sway bars, more feeling in the steering and so on and so forth.

So now I have a MK5 GTI. ECU Stage 1. Job done. Everything else in the VW is pretty much spot on.
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heylinb4nz

Quote from: McDoof on July 28, 2017, 09:20:56 AM
Yea, mine was around 210kw. 165awkw on the dyno. Linear power delivery and a torque curve so flat you could eat off it. Best engine I have had to date. The problem I had with the Legacy is that it's an "almost" car and needs a lot of tweaking to make it a really good car. I could just see myself pouring more and more money into it.
ECU remap alone sorts out pretty 90% of all the engine issues if it's done right. The tuner I was using even worked with me to to get the exhaust note right.
But it needs more supportive seats, better sway bars, more feeling in the steering and so on and so forth.

So now I have a MK5 GTI. ECU Stage 1. Job done. Everything else in the VW is pretty much spot on.

We used to have a 04 (BL5 series) Legacy, used Gary Capper in Pukekohe for tune (subtech front pipe, simota filter and nolathane LCAs) that was running 190KW at all 4, really liked that car just not enough space for 2 kids and all the paraphenalia.

Currently sporting a Infiniti branded Fuga 450GT...(250kw RWD) but next family sedan will be a Euro (eyeing up an S5 Sportback or tuned A7) as you say they just work well out of the box with minimal effort and feel better built compared to most Jap cars.


heylinb4nz

After watching this video many many times im starting to think the tampa mod might be a little too "Wookie" sounding ? not easily reversible either compared to a cat back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ZjJws54Os

Contacted demon tweeks today and asked about Scorpion and Cobra system....listened to quite a few Cobra vids and am really leaning this way, but various accounts say it might be quite loud.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KwCbm4Wji0 (from 48 seconds)

Worms

If it helps, here are pics from an A3 3.2 rear muffler and a MK5 R32 Rear muffler:

A3:


R32:



Both have been hacked up, but you can see the design/flow. Both had glasswool packing in the left side chambers. The R32 internal pipes were joined up in basically the layout you see - I was altering it, but have gone a different way, for now.

McDoof

Just chop out the rear muffler as a test and see what it sounds like. Maybe all you need is a Y pipe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhxdRm-nKtg
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heylinb4nz

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Quote from: McDoof on August 02, 2017, 01:53:45 PM
Just chop out the rear muffler as a test and see what it sounds like. Maybe all you need is a Y pipe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhxdRm-nKtg

That does actually sound quite good, id be worried about drone at cruising speed though. After watching a few more Cobra vids the non resonated will definitely be way to loud. I picked up a Demon Tweeks 10% off voucher and added to the discount they already do on a Resonated Cobra it comes to $900NZ shipped...which gives me option to remove resonator if I want louder.

$900 seems pretty good as it will be single cut and weld and if i dont like it should be able to swap back and no doubt another 3.2 owner will snap up.

Sound clip here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nWPui5e_Co

McDoof

Don't forget that you will pay another 15% when it arrives here. Anything over $400 attracts GST
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heylinb4nz

Quote from: McDoof on August 03, 2017, 10:57:28 AM
Don't forget that you will pay another 15% when it arrives here. Anything over $400 attracts GST

Mabey :) its through Parcelforce, I've never incurred GST through their delivery, but DHL, Fedex etc almost always.

But yeah good point that may take it over the $1000 mark (which psychologically doesn't seem as much of a bargain). I'm not even sure why i'm humming and haaing about it, money isnt an issue for me...but my main objectives is to do it properlyfirst time and get something I like the sound of....ideally with the least amount of customisation, chopping and cutting.

Plus I can legit use a Cobra sticker on the quarter windows if I go the offical route :)

Brett

Quote from: McDoof on August 03, 2017, 10:57:28 AM
Don't forget that you will pay another 15% when it arrives here. Anything over $400 attracts GST
Hit and miss. Expect to pay but they only catch and charge a few.
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Current:
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#32
Just be careful with customs they are extremely sharp. Not sure what  your imported system will cost you but as mentioned if the value is over $400 expect to pay GST and possibly duty. Is there no local performance exhaust outlet who can do this for you?

heylinb4nz

Quote from: DTM on August 03, 2017, 09:17:22 PM
Just be careful with customs they are extremely sharp. Not sure what  your imported system will cost you but as mentioned if the value is over $400 expect to pay GST and possibly duty. Is there no local performance exhaust outlet who can do this for you?

I'd usually use Adrenalin R gear, 2 of their oval Chambers in a config like scorpion.....but sound wise will be hit and miss..loved the sound on my MR2 Turbo...but not sure what to expect on the TT. Price wise would be about same with a friend doing the welding.

Naekyr

Quote from: DTM on August 03, 2017, 09:17:22 PM
Just be careful with customs they are extremely sharp. Not sure what  your imported system will cost you but as mentioned if the value is over $400 expect to pay GST and possibly duty. Is there no local performance exhaust outlet who can do this for you?

i got my exhaust from a local store and they had to order in the model I wanted and it ended up getting delayed by a week as customs was holding it for some reason

heylinb4nz

Got a reply back from Cobra Sports, they advised that the non resonated version is indeed quite loud and not really suited to highway driving for long periods. So by the sounds of it the resonated version is the way to go.

I'm thinking at this stage the resonated version with removal of the small pre silencer after the cat may yield a good result....essentially the Tampa mod but with a Cobra resonator instead of Magnaflow and Cobra rear instead of factory.

On the custom route I feel that these companies (MIlltek, Cobra, Scorpion) have put in the R&D on the Audi platforms so its less of a crapshot as to what sound I will get. + resonators are cheap quick and easy to tune the sound if need be.

Fizz

FYI My New Clutch kit came in via DHL this week. Got it valued under $400 still got Taxed.

GLIDN

other part many do not remember or realize.
Not all parts imported or subjective to the same import costs (on imported value)

Depending on what you import? You also can be charged duty, depending on product.
For Example brake pads had a 22% duty charge last time I imported brakes. Which only gets applied after the GST has been applied on imported costs.

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heylinb4nz

OK so after ALOT of research into the Tampa Mod vs TT Catback systems (Cobra, Milltek and Scorpion) it seems the major drawback on the aftermarket route is the element of harshness it brings to the VR6 note (even if resonated). VW got the note right for the R32 Golf and i've decided that will be great improvement to the TT without going too far. If more is needed then im sure I can add a custom back muffler later on.

So its looking like a full length Tampa mod is on the cards :) and ill make sure to do a decent before \ after vid once complete.

Sourced a Magnaflow 10416 for $130NZ shipped + $25 for a 45 degree bend + $50 for a straight....so $205NZ all up (plus some beer for my welder )

Again the end sound of this mod on 3.2 TT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0ZjJws54Os

Compared to a stock R32 Golf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiZ5pVmuZPU


GLIDN

if it's of any help?

I have a mk6R catback exhaust. As well as a S3 Catback exhaust if either maybe of any use?
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