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Offline weta.worker

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E Vehicles
« on: October 14, 2017, 09:30:28 pm »
Not sure if anyone has seen these videos (converted vehicles)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJLdzRJdKrs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=610Amyhpzzk

and then I went further down the rabbit hole

http://www.zelectricmotors.com/available/

and

http://www.evwest.com/catalog/index.php?cPath=40

Pretty interesting stuff (and I have a soft spot \ interest \ can't ignore e-vehicles)
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Offline brian

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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2017, 08:49:39 am »
It's an area I keep an eye on as electrics certainly have their advantages in a lot of everyday use but still suffer sevīere limitations in others.
I see them as very viable second vehicle.
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Offline schattenblau

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2017, 11:31:09 am »
and those converted classics seem to have even more limitations.

the 911 sounds like 110% ass !

leave the electric drive to modern EVs.


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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2017, 02:11:09 pm »
and those converted classics seem to have even more limitations.

the 911 sounds like 110% ass !

leave the electric drive to modern EVs.

I would go along with this opinion 100%
As I see it the converted old vehicles combine the worst of both worlds. To work properly, the electric needs to be designed from the ground up for electric power and no hybrid nonsense to add a compromise to the whole design.
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Offline the phantom

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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2017, 06:06:17 pm »
and those converted classics seem to have even more limitations.

the 911 sounds like 110% ass !

leave the electric drive to modern EVs.

except that an older vehicle will inevitably be lighter than a contemporary one, therefore more range, performance etc, no electric seats, windows, air bags etc to weigh it down but more glass?  glass is heavy
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Offline schattenblau

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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2017, 06:29:01 pm »
i doubt the classic will be lighter with all the electrics and stuff put in.

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Offline Gordo

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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2017, 06:35:32 pm »
Well we call them motorcars, not enginecars...
Shame they didn't get a new tacho' face silk screened to reflect the motor rpm.
Electric karmann Ghia would be rather cool, IMO - but not a fan of retro-fitting overall and that Jaguar is sacrilege!
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Offline brian

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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2017, 07:51:12 pm »
i doubt the classic will be lighter with all the electrics and stuff put in.

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Yeah, with low strength steels and no aluminium probably heavier than purpose designed even with airbags etc. plus, that still had the weight of the gearbox in it as well!!
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Re: E Vehicles
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2017, 02:42:26 pm »
I'm surprised they left the gearbox in there. Surely it's not really needed.

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« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2017, 03:17:56 pm »
I'm surprised they left the gearbox in there. Surely it's not really needed.

I suspect that was for simplicity and certainly unnecessary from a driving point of view and just adding extra weight which should have been saved if they were even slightly serious................kind of thing one may do in their backyard shed!!
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Offline tjsmada

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Re: E Vehicles
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2017, 04:08:04 pm »
I remember the electric P6 Rovers in Gattaca were pretty cool. I've always thought an Audi 100/200 would be kind of neat as an electric vehicle

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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2017, 04:17:09 pm »
if you're going to fantasyland....

the film in time had a nice electric e-type.

were the cars in gattaca electric or atomic powered

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Re: E Vehicles
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2017, 05:22:02 pm »
Just tragic to convert a classic car to full electric motive power.  The point of a classic restoration is to retain its original concept and appreciate its simplistic design or nostalgic value... I would have thought.

I agree with subtle enhancement to improve character and driving refinement. But turning popular classics into motoring eunuchs and Frankensteins. The average warm blooded enthusiast will respond with WTF?

Interesting that they don't upgrade an old Prius hybrid to an full EV ? (That's right ... because they're already a bloody disgrace). Am I alone or does everyone try to get into the solitairy 6cyl Holden siting 3 deep behind two Pruis at a taxi stand. If I'm paying full fare I'm emitting hydro carbons.

EV's will be upon us as fast as the development will allow and its staggering the investment under taken by the leading Europeans in the current arms race to be the first to volume production. I'm picking Tesla will go into financial collapse in the interim...  (Elon Musk = John Delorean??)

NZ needs to move along with the national infrastructure development required to support EV's with greater pace than current (excuse the pun). The average domestic 230v charging rates are to slow for real convenience. So households and businesses will need 3 phase wall box fast chargers to accomodate faster charge times. What's this mean for our national highways and tourist routes etc.

Truth is the sale of new hybrids and the limited EV's is no where near Simon Bridges objectives. That's because we are a 1 car per person nation of fossil fuel car loving people. We enjoy our present independence and freedom of driving range. And there is no incentive to convert to an EV. Ok...You can run up the bus lane for a couple weeks ..come on Si really.

The globally significant aspect aspect of EV introduction is yet to come. The long term loss of tax revenue from fossil fuel and displacement of industry(s) reliant on oil.  (Yeah I know...yawn)

While I'm waiting for the above I'll enjoy my classics running on good old fashioned motor spirits...



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Re: E Vehicles
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2017, 06:08:10 pm »
I disagree. Converting classics to EV is the only way they are going to stay on the road long term (in 25 years).  Eventually the tech will simply out-price petrol/diesel and then how long before petrol stations become non-existent?  Also, just the fact that you have a classic that is 'green' is enough to sell me on the idea. 

At the moment we aren't there yet with the battery tech, but we will be sooner rather later and then conversions become a very nice solution for classics.

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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2017, 06:54:02 pm »
I remember the electric P6 Rovers in Gattaca were pretty cool. I've always thought an Audi 100/200 would be kind of neat as an electric vehicle

if you're going to fantasyland....

the film in time had a nice electric e-type.

were the cars in gattaca electric or atomic powered

 ;D

re-watching the film, it appears the cars were neither electric nor atomic; rather they were some form of gas turbine.

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