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Offline schattenblau

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new hot hatch king
« on: January 25, 2018, 12:44:43 pm »
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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2018, 05:47:19 pm »
Still can't get over how UGLY these cars are.
As it's all subjective of course.

Would much rather a golf myself.
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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 11:04:46 am »
The Veloster is the worst.  I canít believe they have released a second gen version.  The market of legally blind car buyers canít be that big.
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Offline Naekyr

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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 02:40:19 pm »
Still can't get over how UGLY these cars are.
As it's all subjective of course.

Would much rather a golf myself.

part of the problem with "hot hatches" is they still try to keep some practicality which causes the ugly look
these cars would look tons better if they had lower roofs and only 2 doors (basically a coupe-hatchback hybrid)
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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 03:13:41 pm »
then you ended up with hot hatch coupes like the scirocco and megane rs.
sporty looking but less practical, with awful rear vision.

i don't mind the current 2 box look.

worse aspect of the 'dai is the rear which looks like three different cars.

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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2018, 03:14:48 pm »
The Hyundai could be 10x as good but I'd still never buy one.
Just does absolutely nothing for me.
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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2018, 04:32:19 pm »
The Veloster is the worst.  I canít believe they have released a second gen version.  The market of legally blind car buyers canít be that big.

but still Toyota offers this


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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2018, 04:33:36 pm »
ch-r would be ok with a decent drivetrain

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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2018, 06:27:56 pm »
but still Toyota offers this


and check out any current Lexus, the definition of face-ache

Yeah the Japanese manufacturers seem to have lost their way in the fun, cheap and reliable FWD hot hatch department. There was a time where any decent hot hatch comparison would have at least one, if not more, Japanese manufacturers represented. I'm struggling to think of one such car available at a Toyota, Honda, Mazda showroom currently? Suzuki Swift Sport is probably closest I guess?
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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2018, 06:46:38 pm »
Yeah the Japanese manufacturers seem to have lost their way in the fun, cheap and reliable FWD hot hatch department. There was a time where any decent hot hatch comparison would have at least one, if not more, Japanese manufacturers represented. I'm struggling to think of one such car available at a Toyota, Honda, Mazda showroom currently? Suzuki Swift Sport is probably closest I guess?

This is not surprising considering 'they know best' rather than engaging more western thinking designers.
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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2018, 11:55:19 am »
what about these ?

unlike other japanese manufacturers, the production versions will be close to the concepts.


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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2018, 12:05:16 pm »
what about these ?

unlike other japanese manufacturers, the production versions will be close to the concepts.



Both look a bit weird to me.
Only eastern manufacturer to have produced something faintly passable is KIA which are generally better looking than the Hyundai equivalent
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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2018, 08:19:32 pm »
This is not surprising considering 'they know best' rather than engaging more western thinking designers.
Everything I can think of out of Japan is hideous

I don't think it's an issue of thinking they know best, but rather a different aesthetic
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Re: new hot hatch king
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 12:57:47 pm »
what about these ?

unlike other japanese manufacturers, the production versions will be close to the concepts.



I don't think they'll launch quite like that - the bean counters won't like shipping 20 inch rims on a entry level hatchback

I do like the look though, but the engine in that thing is up for debate