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Offline timmay

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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2006, 01:43:17 pm »
Whats happened to S3 Qauttro
His must be for sale?,,,,...   lightly salted

Nup he's still got his and not for sale as far as I know.

Being repaired currently though  :P
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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #16 on: December 10, 2006, 03:07:42 pm »
OMG...how many times are we going to have to compare the S3 to something???

I think what Dubious is saying is that if you have a budget to stick to, go wif the Golf and spend what you saved on giving it more power. No a Golf naturally will never be as quick as a chipped S3 unless the Golf itself has had some serious work done to it and even then the S3 has Quattro to help it get off the line quicker.

As for interior...well I think that largely boils down to personal preference. Yea for sure, the newer Audis do have a much more luxurious interior than the equivalent VW...thats the way its meant to be! But, apart from the Recaros in the S3, I don't think Audi did a very good job with the A3/S3 pair when compared to the equivalent MKIV Golf. Yea, the S3 may have more interior appointments...you are paying for it after all....but I agree with Dubious, the Golf interior is just a much nicer place to be.

Oh and btw...my door handle trims aren't worn  :P

I didn't start the comparing S3 to Golf thing but saw some significant (and on this forum commonly seen) slagging off of the S3 on grounds which are simply unsustainable. As a Golf owner I am sure you find the interior just a much nicer place to be but i can assure you I have spent significant time in a MkIV Golf and an S3 and you are quite simply either wrong or biased.

The performance thing you seem to accept.

I just wanted to balance the argument :)

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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2006, 04:57:55 pm »
you are quite simply either wrong or biased.




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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2006, 10:37:10 pm »
As a Golf owner I am sure you find the interior just a much nicer place to be but i can assure you I have spent significant time in a MkIV Golf and an S3 and you are quite simply either wrong or biased.

Ha...I wouldn't say I was wrong or right or biased for that matter...i'd call it a difference between personal preference! I know there are other people who would agree with me too.

If you were to compare the MKV Golf GTi and the new S3 (based on what I have seen in da pics) i'd say the new S3.
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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2006, 05:36:59 pm »
Ha...I wouldn't say I was wrong or right or biased for that matter...i'd call it a difference between personal preference! I know there are other people who would agree with me too.

If you were to compare the MKV Golf GTi and the new S3 (based on what I have seen in da pics) i'd say the new S3.

Ha ha - we might differ here too - the new GTi is a cracker to drive - informative and responsive. Don't expect such feedback from the new S3 which will be significantly heavier - it will be v quick for sure but I suspect for the Thrill of Driving the GTi might have the edge. The S3 will be beautifully finished and appointed so I guess it depend on what you want and how much you can afford - expect the S3 to run close to $100K  ::)

Remember that the Thrill of Driving has little to do with point to point times but far more to do with how it makes the driver feel about the experience. How much the car talks to the driver and how well the car allows the driver to interact with the road.

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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2006, 09:46:34 pm »
Ha ha - we might differ here too - the new GTi is a cracker to drive - informative and responsive. Don't expect such feedback from the new S3 which will be significantly heavier - it will be v quick for sure but I suspect for the Thrill of Driving the GTi might have the edge. The S3 will be beautifully finished and appointed so I guess it depend on what you want and how much you can afford - expect the S3 to run close to $100K  ::)

Remember that the Thrill of Driving has little to do with point to point times but far more to do with how it makes the driver feel about the experience. How much the car talks to the driver and how well the car allows the driver to interact with the road.

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Sorry yea, when I said the new S3 over the MKV Golf GTi I was referring to the interior etc etc
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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2006, 12:38:39 pm »
The new GTI didn't look that hot s**t on its lap on top gear.

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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2006, 11:48:16 pm »
I test drove a DSG gti before we got the S3, and i didnt think it was fast at all. Never drove an R32 though...
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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2006, 01:07:12 pm »
How many s3 owner feel the need to go onto the vw forum and slag off golfs etc? Can't see the need for the reverse to happen.

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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2006, 04:43:36 pm »
I test drove a DSG gti before we got the S3, and i didnt think it was fast at all. Never drove an R32 though...

S3 vs Golf GTI - S3 (handling)
S3 vs Golf GTI - GTI (Straight Line)
S3 vs Golf GTI - GTI (Interior)
R32 vs S3 - R32 - (Noise, Handling & Mostly Straight Line with the exception of Steves high out put one)
R32 vs Golf GTI - R32 (Handling , Straight Line, Interior)

In saying that i really like my Golf.. and Watch this space... there may be a Killer GTI MK4 on the loose soon..

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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2006, 08:24:07 am »
So what you are saying is i should trade up to a Mk5 R32?? cause i was thinking about it. But i figured when i get my ECU reprogrammed, the S3 would be faster than an R32 anyway (judging by that dyno shootout i saw on here between the A3 3.2 and a chipped S3).
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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2006, 09:57:27 am »
ummmm...

you would be down grading if you went to mk5 (aesthetically speaking)

i say go mk4 R32 looks better.. and is only 10 HP shy of the new R32...

the S3 Quattros S3  is more powerfull at the wheels with his superchips map than Zipzaps Chiped Cam'd and Exhaust'd R32

S3 - 165kw at the wheels (Chipped and Remus Rear Box and Decatted)

R32 - 158kw at the wheels (Chipped Cam'd, Cat back exhaust no cats)

These dyno results are on the same dyno same day

the S3 pulls like a School boy, the R32 is more refined and linear (prim and proper)

R32's Spring Damper and ARB setup is far superior to that of the S3 even tho the S3 has extra Strengthening

(Tie bars/Strut braces upper and lower)

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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2006, 10:19:33 am »
ummmm...

you would be down grading if you went to mk5 (aesthetically speaking)

i say go mk4 R32 looks better.. and is only 10 HP shy of the new R32...

the S3 Quattros S3  is more powerfull at the wheels with his superchips map than Zipzaps Chiped Cam'd and Exhaust'd R32

S3 - 165kw at the wheels (Chipped and Remus Rear Box and Decatted)

R32 - 158kw at the wheels (Chipped Cam'd, Cat back exhaust no cats)

These dyno results are on the same dyno same day

the S3 pulls like a School boy, the R32 is more refined and linear (prim and proper)

R32's Spring Damper and ARB setup is far superior to that of the S3 even tho the S3 has extra Strengthening

(Tie bars/Strut braces upper and lower)

Was this from the VASK dyno day or a later day? What the chip in the R32 sorted at the point of this run?

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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2006, 11:05:21 am »
another day..


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Re: Why do S3's have so many owners?
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2006, 03:49:38 pm »
Whats happened to S3 Qauttro
His must be for sale?,,,,...   lightly salted

Im confused by what lightly salted means?

Im still around.

I prefer the S3 to a MKIV or MKV GTI :-)

And my S3 is quicker in a straight line than a GTI.