PROJECT: Red Rabbit

[spooln]

I kinda agree with an original color, especially after the work you have done in other areas. I also agree that the market here is not what you could find overseas, but thats great when you a buyer.

[vwrally]

Hi Dennis

I agree keep original colour especially if you have a matching numbers car, market may be not so strong now but what will it be in 5 yrs??  10 yrs??

The H block I am pretty sure you will find is still 1.6. I have had the same situation as this in the past and found by measuring the crank, that it was 1.6.

The H block is meant to be the best block to rebuild (for reasons i cant really remember, pretty sure its stronger at the bottom of the bores) The same block was also used by chrysler for one of there cars in the states. You can do the 1.7 upgrade essentially using 1.8 crank and rods and 1.6 pistons and a whole lot of mucking about with gudgeons etc

[BB]

A whole bunch of mucking around for not much gain as usual with the VW 8v's

[vwrally]

Bb I hope you get some positive pills for new year.  I enjoy the challenge of getting the most out of small engines as I am sure do others. If not all the Anglias in the country would be 16v turbo efi mega squirt etcetc but to me there is no challenge in that

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A whole bunch of mucking around for not much.
 Some enjoy doing that though. Good on them.
 Got nothing to do with positivity or negativity.
 Facts.

[vwrally]

Sorry to hijack your thread Dennis BUT.. 

Some FACTS on k jet 8V Golfs in NZ (just the ones we own) given that these aren't overly modified (read mucked around with) I can't see any issue with 8Vs and k-jet. I will guarantee I can get an 8V kjet to run better in a mk1 golf than the mucking around required to fit a 16V and as for kjet being dangerous due to pressure I have never heard of anything running kjet catching fire due to fuel leaks. If you use the correct fittings correctly there is no issue.

In fact the only motor that is not within factory tolerances including porting is the 165BHP one

Flying 1/4 mile speed for a 1.6 8V balanced and blueprinted only 123 mph timed electronically

BHP of good motor 165BHP not a hand grenade running k-jet and street drivable

Not Sure how the 16Vs (non turbo) compare to those figures
 
1st and 2nd B&H 500 1979

1st outright in the Bay Park (?) round of the 1981 B&H Series (When the V8s had returned, but it was raining)

1st South Island Production Series 1982 and 1983

14th outright in Targa

14th outright in Silver Fern Maraton Rally

138 competitive outings 1 DNF for mechanical reasons, (camshaft pulley came off 3A motor in rally car)

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Sorry to hijack your thread Dennis BUT.. 

Some FACTS on k jet 8V Golfs in NZ (just the ones we own) given that these aren't overly modified (read mucked around with) I can't see any issue with 8Vs and k-jet. I will guarantee I can get an 8V kjet to run better in a mk1 golf than the mucking around required to fit a 16V and as for kjet being dangerous due to pressure I have never heard of anything running kjet catching fire due to fuel leaks. If you use the correct fittings correctly there is no issue.

In fact the only motor that is not within factory tolerances including porting is the 165BHP one

Flying 1/4 mile speed for a 1.6 8V balanced and blueprinted only 123 mph timed electronically

BHP of good motor 165BHP not a hand grenade running k-jet and street drivable

Not Sure how the 16Vs (non turbo) compare to those figures
 
1st and 2nd B&H 500 1979

1st outright in the Bay Park (?) round of the 1981 B&H Series (When the V8s had returned, but it was raining)

1st South Island Production Series 1982 and 1983

14th outright in Targa

14th outright in Silver Fern Maraton Rally

138 competitive outings 1 DNF for mechanical reasons, (camshaft pulley came off 3A motor in rally car)

What are the specs on the 165hp engine? Is that 165hp at the wheels?

Also with the right bits a 16v will bolt straight into a mk1 with no need to move anything other than the brake fluid res

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Sorry to wind you up so much Jeremy

 Hey that's all great! I think 8v golf motors are the ducks nuts too and your right if all the correct fittings are used then there is no real problem with a k-jet car. No more dangerous than any petrol car really tho I personally hate to much around with most fuel systems and I really hate the rear under car fuel pumps on k jets as the adapter bit often loosens at the pump rather than unbolting from the banjo......I'm sure you will know what I'm talking about Mr VWRally

 If were talking about a certain person Im sure they wish they just had there good old 8v that went and went back in there too But that's life.

 I think if you go to the lengths you were saying in the post I made comment regarding mucking around that all the gudgeon stuff is almost at the far end of mucking around .....but sure if you know what your doing and have the bits and the money why not.

 You say you have a 165hp 8v 1.8 is it or a 1.6? I think Ive heard its a 1.6 from past discussions. Well factory they are 110hp as we all know and not that much torque but ok. So what have you done to get a hell of a lot more from this car?

 I have as you know had a very quick 8v motor which you now own, but in gutless 1.6 form. And it was gutless compared to when it had 2l of Ross race pistons in it. A fail, I should have known.
 Then I got Noels 8v race motor, may have gone well on race gas but was dreadful on pump gas no power at all.
 I have fitted a 1.8 gti motor too the yellow mk1 sold buy young Audio now owned by new member dave. Well that one was one out of a box that thing honks.
 But my ABF with a chipped ECU goes the best by quite a margin and it will run and run with no probs and is very fuel efficient. Nearly all the mk3 gtis still go well even in the 280k range.
 It is simple and it is light and it fits easy as pie.
 Still has that bloody annoying fuel pump from the k-jet as well

 Its up to what people want, many on here scream for the 1.8t as being the best but i don't need that level of power or complication and more to the point I can't afford to do one!

 But what I say is that there can be a lot of mucking around for not so much over all gain. If you are going to have an 8v then just leave it as it is and thrash the hell out of it and have a replacement block to fit.
 Or if your a guru like you Jeremy do what you know works and have fun.