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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2008, 05:27:13 pm »
on suspension i cannot comment, as for rear parcel shelf, we could always recarpet it with black or grey??
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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2008, 05:58:15 pm »
I'm looking at suspension with 300# Fr 280# rear spring rates. Bildon have advised to go up to 500 fr / 450 rear. Any thoughts?

500/450 sounds like a pretty high spring rate for a road car to me.

I'm running 350 in the front with a big old heavy VR6 and it's fairly stiff on the road, still rolls a bit on the track.
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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2008, 06:31:46 pm »
Def too heavy. If you do the same as Robh, even then I think you will find them too stiff with quite a bit less weight over the front.
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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2008, 09:24:52 pm »
on suspension i cannot comment, as for rear parcel shelf, we could always recarpet it with black or grey??

Good idea. I like a factory look, so I'll keep an eye peeled for the right carpet. Your VR6 seats look grey?

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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2008, 09:26:51 pm »
500/450 sounds like a pretty high spring rate for a road car to me.

I'm running 350 in the front with a big old heavy VR6 and it's fairly stiff on the road, still rolls a bit on the track.

I'm running 350# with the Anglia and really like the ride, although it is probably not as intrusive as a result of the overall car not being very refined. I thought 300 sounded right, so thanks for confirming. Noel, how about that! Stiffer front than rear, just as you've set up; were you watching the US boys?

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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #20 on: April 05, 2008, 08:33:58 am »
There is a more accurate way to get the spring rate.

You need to measure the length of your existing springs while the car is on it wheels, then take them out and give them to Stocks workshop, they will measure the spring rate of your existing springs and compare that with the free length versus the compressed length.  They can then advise you how much weight they are supporting and what sort of spring rate would be suitable for your style of driving.
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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2008, 07:48:45 am »
I'm looking at suspension with 300# Fr 280# rear spring rates. Bildon have advised to go up to 500 fr / 450 rear. Any thoughts?

Dennis, if its going to be your daily driver, why dont you buy an off the shelf suspension kit. I dont see why you want to reinvent the wheel?
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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2008, 08:13:17 am »
Dennis, if its going to be your daily driver, why dont you buy an off the shelf suspension kit. I dont see why you want to reinvent the wheel?

Both of those are off the shelf kits, but their site didn't specify spring rates, hence asking Bildon what they were.

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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2008, 01:25:12 pm »
Going out with my boys today to do a bit of bowling, then bring the car into the garage and strip out the interior. A few parts arrived (water pump and thermostat). I bought some used rims on TM and went to the shop to see them yesterday. They are extremely light - I'd guess 15 pounds for 16" rims! Qta and I are doing a spring swap so the Jetta will end up with a lower stance.

The more exciting bits are still in a warehouse somewhere. I've ordered a new sway bar which bolts to the rear section and another 'typical' rear sway bar can be added later to fine tune the suspension. Camber adjustment bolts for the front end, a short shift kit, lightweight flywheel and performance clutch round out the new parts.

The Mk3 seats have been stripped and are having a subtle center panel inserted. I'm still struggling with door cards though. I want them to tie into the new interior but don't want to pay to have the panels re-covered. Vert1 has organised all the new little maintenance parts and steam cleaned/degreased the ABF engine.

We're due to strip the mechanicals on Tuesday. Can't wait to get this thing started. Still looking for a rear spoiler and I'd also like some 16v door side trim.
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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2008, 03:03:06 pm »
i might have all my interior for sale soon.. i'll keep you posted.
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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2008, 04:41:33 pm »
And so...... another project begins. The car has been gutted to within an inch of its life, everything forward of the rear axle has been stripped and most of it binned.
Anglebox played with some nasty chemicals last night and the results are quite surprising, just a good clean in the engine bay and the underside of the bonnet has made things look a whole lot better.

I had already degreased and steamcleaned the MK3 subframe and powersteer rack so that all got bolted up yesterday. I had intended to use the MK3 front crossmember but to make this fit was going to be too much effort so instead I'll use the MK2 one and modify the engine mount area so we can install a nice MK3 VF uprated one.

Todays progress was quite good, got the shifterbox mounted, brake booster mounted, pedals mounted, ABS pump and ecu mounted and also custom made most of the brake lines to suit.
The pump has all its brake lines connected and just waiting for the susp to go in.
I'm not that happy with the way the pedals sit in the car as it seems the brake booster is mounted higher in a MK2 body so i'm going to lengthen them both to suit.
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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2008, 06:29:36 pm »
Here a few pics from earlier in the day. John's a pretty speedy fellow  :laugh:.






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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2008, 06:44:03 pm »
Yeehaaaaaaaaaaa Mk2 projects are the shizzle! This and Brendan's are gonna be awesome! Plus all the existing ones - phwooar. Man there's some cool VASK cars that have come together in the last few years with no let up on the horizon! LOVE IT  ;D :o 8) :-* >:D
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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2008, 07:40:45 pm »
Here's an idea as to how the inside will look!




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Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2008, 08:56:49 pm »
you so lucky to have a jetta project  ;)