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VOLKSWAGEN => Other Volkswagen => Topic started by: FFS on November 27, 2012, 09:52:05 PM

Title: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on November 27, 2012, 09:52:05 PM
Whose got good knowledge of these? I've test driven an older Toureg 2.5 diesel today and a '09 Tiguan looking for a replacement for my good ladies aging Freelander. Loved the Tiguan but an acquaintance in the industry says steer clear of any common rail diesels due to the amount which have fuel pump failure.

Anyone know about them?
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: beeker on November 28, 2012, 06:19:43 AM
My wife has an 06 Touareg 3.0 TDI. Its a very good all round car/truck. Even with higher kms now.

The 3.0 TDI is the sweat spot (does 1,000kms on open road per tank). The 2.5 TDI is under powered, the v6 Petrol ok'ish, and the v8 expensive to run.
Like the Allroad, air suspension failure can occur, so watch for that. Many have metal springs though.

Tiguan is a newer car, but MUCH smaller.

PS. They look much better slightly lowered, and 20" plus wheels fitted.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: S1 on November 28, 2012, 11:36:12 AM
My daughter has a 09 Tig R line , the 19s look cool but can aquaplane . Non DSG so not as smooth but without the maintance amazing build quality  and so much fun to drive when your tired of bucket seats and manual changes , half the price of a Q5 but a touch noisy , Ive heard nothing about pump failures
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on November 28, 2012, 06:47:35 PM
Thanks guys! Loved the one we drove.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: 00quattro00 on November 28, 2012, 06:58:50 PM
Quote from: FFS on November 27, 2012, 09:52:05 PM
Whose got good knowledge of these? I've test driven an older Toureg 2.5 diesel today and a '09 Tiguan looking for a replacement for my good ladies aging Freelander. Loved the Tiguan but an acquaintance in the industry says steer clear of any common rail diesels due to the amount which have fuel pump failure.

Anyone know about them?

99% of diesels these days are common rail
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on November 28, 2012, 09:25:12 PM
Yes, it seems a bit odd, which is why I wanted other unbiased views. This man runs and owns an automotive business, - not a one man band in a provincial town either,- and I have dealt wih him for nigh on 15 yrs so he has my respect and I listen when he says something. Advice to him from the owner of a business which rebuilds diesel fuel pumps was to steer clear of the common rail diesels. i just don't know enough about them, but they certainly put out the power compared to the old oilers. Maybe the pumps aren't lasting like they should. Must have a scratch on the internet.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: 00quattro00 on November 28, 2012, 09:28:26 PM
Imo there is no point in buying a diesel in something like the Tiguan. There is no saving in economy, they cost more to buy, cost more to service and cost more when they crap themselves
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: spooln on November 30, 2012, 05:35:13 PM
Tig has a good tow rating for small boats, braked trailer to 2 ton. Really fue efficient for a 4wd, seeing a low as 4.9 on open road, easier to park in towns due to size. Pretty versatile IMO.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: GLIDN on November 30, 2012, 06:16:02 PM
Quote from: 00quattro00 on November 28, 2012, 09:28:26 PM
Imo there is no point in buying a diesel in something like the Tiguan. There is no saving in economy, they cost more to buy, cost more to service and cost more when they s**t themselves

Hey Basil,

you do realize the Tiguan Diesel gets almost 1000-1100km's per tank open road and around 750-850km's around town
vs 650-700km open road and 400-500km's around town for the Tiguan TSI (MK5/MK6 Variant GTI engine)?

Surely that's enough point in it's own right? Plus Diesel has pretty good towing capacity too.
Interior space for the Tiguan is less than 10% larger than a MK5 Golf I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: schattenblau on November 30, 2012, 06:36:33 PM
Can we get a 155kW petrol Tig in NZ ?

Last time I looked the NZ petrol version was 132kW.

Across the Tasman Ockers can get a real GTI-engined Tig - 155Kw and 7-speed DSG.

>:(


Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on November 30, 2012, 11:58:56 PM
Quote from: schattenblau on November 30, 2012, 06:36:33 PM
Can we get a 155kW petrol Tig in NZ ?

Last time I looked the NZ petrol version was 132kW.

Across the Tasman Ockers can get a real GTI-engined Tig - 155Kw and 7-speed DSG.

>:(

I haven't seen one during my search. might've slipped past though as we've been concentrating on diesel, as we do a bit of mileage. Will be my wifes car if something absolutely right turns up. Tried today getting Iphone connected to tigs bluetooth on one (we've driven and returned to) at Inghams in Hamilton but even though has the large touchscreen with phone buttons on it and on the steering wheel that was a no go for connection. The dealer thinks some come out that way with the buttons but without the actual bluetooth inbuilt.

Love the sound of that mileage with the diesel. RUC will reduce that shine somewhat though.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: GLIDN on December 03, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
Quote from: schattenblau on November 30, 2012, 06:36:33 PM
Can we get a 155kW petrol Tig in NZ ?

Last time I looked the NZ petrol version was 132kW.

Across the Tasman Ockers can get a real GTI-engined Tig - 155Kw and 7-speed DSG.

>:(




There are 132 and 140kw variants available, So basically the FSI engine.
You can buy a brand new TSI tiguan then it has the 155kw TSI GTI engine.

But even at the 132/140kw variant, after a tune it ends up with same power as per Golf GTI. So it's just been detuned at the factory.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on December 03, 2012, 05:58:11 PM
155kw sounds alright!   The diesel with 103kw is enough for my non-leadfoot wife already though...
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: schattenblau on December 03, 2012, 08:30:57 PM
Quote from: GLIDN on December 03, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
There are 132 and 140kw variants available, So basically the FSI engine.
You can buy a brand new TSI tiguan then it has the 155kw TSI GTI engine.

But even at the 132/140kw variant, after a tune it ends up with same power as per Golf GTI. So it's just been detuned at the factory.

Why doesn't VWNZ update their website !

All they have listed are 132 petrol and 103 diesel.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on December 10, 2012, 09:41:43 AM
Bought a Tiguan in the end. Flew to Dunedn Sat avo and picked it up, drove it back to the Waikato. I am stunned at how good this car is.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: spooln on December 10, 2012, 09:56:03 AM
Nice one. Underrated IMO.
Title: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on December 15, 2012, 10:13:13 AM
Newest addition...enroute to home from Dunedin last weekend
Title: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on December 15, 2012, 10:29:00 AM
One more
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: S1 on December 15, 2012, 02:33:29 PM
They eat up a long drive with ease
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: schattenblau on December 15, 2012, 04:26:55 PM
Nice.

Why Dunedin ?
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on December 15, 2012, 06:30:38 PM
Quote from: schattenblau on December 15, 2012, 04:26:55 PM
Nice.

Why Dunedin ?

My wifes choice was for one with cream leather, most have cloth or black leather upholstery. there were only two for sale in the country (that we could find) and this one was vastly the better.

Interestingly we had came very close to buying the other, met the owner at the Bombay Hills. Looked under it and found rust in the wishbone seams and that the stainless exhaust system was rustng quite badly. Learnt that the owners teenage son had been using it to tow a jetski.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: schattenblau on December 15, 2012, 08:12:16 PM
Good call

;)
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: FFS on December 15, 2012, 11:00:42 PM
Yeah, plus the one we bought was from the VW Audi dealership. Made the buy that much more comfortable, especially given the distance. And they were great to deal with.
Title: Re: Tiguan and Touareg
Post by: ranton-inc on December 16, 2012, 06:55:12 PM
Saw this yesterday it really is in lovely condition! enjoy it man :)