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Title: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: bballz on November 29, 2012, 09:56:01 AM
Hey All,

Just got my RS4 a few weeks back - didnt know what i was missing!

The one thing that bugs me is the head unit - The Audi Symphony seems pretty crappy even for a 2006 car , with a tape deck etc and no Aux port ...

I would love to have the  Sat nav installed - not because i want sat nav but the rest of the features on it seem great along with fitting in with the Car without looking retarded ... if that makes sense

Ive seen this topic discussed on many forums - retro fitting Sat nav should work but i was wandering if anyone here has had this done to successfully ? did you do it your self or is there some place that can do it for you ? The service center at Audi didnt seem to think so although i might not have talked to the right guy

Looking at this RS4 for sale on trademe looks like it can be ? im pretty sure the 2006 never came with the option of Sat nav when bought new based on what i've read ?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=534477577

Cheers


Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: haggis on November 29, 2012, 10:05:23 AM
It is only one step up from the Gramaphone really but the sound is good. I have an iPod connector on mine which is in the dookit, it thinks it is a big long CD and i just leave it on shuffle. Not ideal but better than nothing. I haven;t seen any decent retrofits.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: bballz on November 29, 2012, 10:19:56 AM
well that sounds better than nothing for sure

how does the ipod connector work ? there's no Aux port on this Symphony is there ?

so tempted to order this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RNS-E-AUDI-A4-S4-RS4-NAVIGATION-SATNAV-DVD-2012-MAP-/170945246838?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item27cd217676

although i have no idea what a DIY install would involve ..... would be an expensive fail though
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: schattenblau on November 29, 2012, 11:00:53 AM
That TM car is a UK import which explains the satnav.

Nothing wrong with a tape deck (if you have good tapes).

;D

Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: haggis on November 29, 2012, 02:25:11 PM
Fark knows - I think its a Denison or something, wasn't cheap but it works well.http://www.dension.com/product/ipod-car-adapter/ipod-iphone-auxin-id3/gateway-100
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: GLIDN on November 29, 2012, 03:02:24 PM
Quote from: haggis on November 29, 2012, 02:25:11 PM
Fark knows - I think its a Denison or something, wasn't cheap but it works well.http://www.dension.com/product/ipod-car-adapter/ipod-iphone-auxin-id3/gateway-100

Really? I personally found the Dension 100/200 and 300 bloody awful to use on the Symphony and Concerto audi system via radio and it did at least display limited information on the MFA in the B7 Audi's I played with.

I think even the GROM is a better unit, does not display MFD information for most Audi/VW. But would happily live with it's useablilty with no info then the otherway around.

Replacing the OEM radio with aftermarket units, do pose a slight issue with volume between front and rear speakers. To the point that I recommend bypassing the OEM rear amplifier and subwoofer. then run a new amplifier or from radio to replace all 4 speakers. Or tap into OEM speaker wire for the rear doors to bypass OEM aplification
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: haggis on November 29, 2012, 03:21:41 PM
Seems alright to me, i push CD twice and the second 'CD" is the iPod. I just leave it on shuffle and advance forwards backwards using the >> and << buttons - sounds fine to me. Absolutely no display whatsoever other than it being a track with the time but then I don't really care too much about that. To be fair when i say it works OK i am meaning from a low base i.e. CDs or Radio. 07 B7 RS4 nz new by the way.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: BDI_S4 on December 06, 2012, 12:48:54 PM
I'd go straight to this if I had a B7 - http://zenec.com.au/ZE-NC3141D-Audi.php

For some reason they don't advertise it for a B6 (which is what I've got) - although it looks to me like it should fit fine.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: hrrrrsn on December 06, 2012, 03:27:45 PM
That Zenec has some nice specs but the UI looks dreadful. I'm a bit hesitant to replace the OEM Concert 2 in my B7 just because I'm being anal about ugly looking third party headunits. :/
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: beeker on December 06, 2012, 04:34:19 PM
The upgraded multimedia Satnav unit 'was' an option in NZ, but as they didnt have any maps, only a very few cars were fitted in NZ with them.

Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: leebske on December 07, 2012, 04:04:55 AM
Any idea whether buying this RNS-E unit from the UK would be plug and play?

Quite interested myself
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: beeker on December 07, 2012, 06:24:13 AM
Quote from: leebske on December 07, 2012, 04:04:55 AM
Any idea whether buying this RNS-E unit from the UK would be plug and play?

Quite interested myself

Thought about the same. Still no maps available thou.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: BDI_S4 on December 07, 2012, 08:58:45 AM
Quote from: leebske on December 07, 2012, 04:04:55 AM
Any idea whether buying this RNS-E unit from the UK would be plug and play?

Quite interested myself

Some good answers on that question, posted by Highperformanceaudi, in this thread: http://www.vask.org.nz/index.php/topic,18675.0.html
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: beeker on December 07, 2012, 05:19:30 PM
Quote from: BDI_S4 on December 07, 2012, 08:58:45 AM
Some good answers on that question, posted by Highperformanceaudi, in this thread: http://www.vask.org.nz/index.php/topic,18675.0.html

Output form a separate GPS into the headunit video input would work, but its not as tidy as an integrated solution, alas we don't have that choice with OEM.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: hrrrrsn on December 08, 2012, 02:46:02 PM
What other advantages would the RNS-E have over the Concert if navigation wasn't a concern? I'm fairly interested in ordering one
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: BDI_S4 on December 10, 2012, 09:54:29 AM
Quote from: hrrrrsn on December 08, 2012, 02:46:02 PM
What other advantages would the RNS-E have over the Concert if navigation wasn't a concern? I'm fairly interested in ordering one

Looks 100x cooler /more modern :)
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: nordschleife on December 10, 2012, 12:43:11 PM
If you have OEM bluetooth it will also show your address book, etc. - worth it for that alone.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: moochier on January 10, 2013, 08:07:45 AM
Hi guys,

Where did you get to with the aftermarket options? Has anyone bought anything yet?

I'd also be keen on replacing the head unit. I'm not worried about navigation but more an OEM style unit that has hands free for my iphone and also allows music functionality from iphone/iPod, any other functions would just be a bonus.

Maybe combine shipping to make it more efficient?

Cheers
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: bballz on January 12, 2013, 10:07:06 AM
i was dead keen on buying the factory one from this guy on ebay
http://stores.ebay.com/sat-nav-system-experts/Audi-navigation-systems-/_i.html?_fsub=514046319&_sid=1087920799&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

bit confused now after seeing a slightly different model - RNS-E PU - i thought there was only 2 variants , an older one and a new one with an HD screen, this seems to be a 3rd type ....

also debating where the money should go for now .... head unit or exhaust  :P
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: moochier on January 12, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
Does it matter that there are 3 variants? Find out which is the best one and but that...

Are these pretty much plug and play? Where do you get NZ maps from?

What else is needed to get an iphone connected to them?

I'm pretty keen to get something as long as it will work as a phone hands free and play music from my iPod as well.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: bballz on January 13, 2013, 10:24:12 PM
as far as i know (someone correct me if im wrong)

the RNSE unit wont offer Bluetooth hands free just by it self - you need the Audi Blue tooth kit which you can also find on ebay etc for another 500$ or so

but the blue tooth kit only allows you to make calls and use the phone through the RNSE unit, you still cant play music from the iphone wthout fitting an AUX port (i think there are some kits for this as well)

if all you want to do is use hands free and get music from the phone/ipod youre better off getting one of the Denison units below and keep youre existing head unit? all the RNSE unit offers is a nicer looking head unit with a screen and you can play music off SD cards etc 

Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: mikemas on January 15, 2013, 08:22:15 AM
Quote from: bballz on January 12, 2013, 10:07:06 AM
i was dead keen on buying the factory one from this guy on ebay
http://stores.ebay.com/sat-nav-system-experts/Audi-navigation-systems-/_i.html?_fsub=514046319&_sid=1087920799&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322

bit confused now after seeing a slightly different model - RNS-E PU - i thought there was only 2 variants , an older one and a new one with an HD screen, this seems to be a 3rd type ....

also debating where the money should go for now .... head unit or exhaust  :P

Exhaust for sure..you'll spend your time listening to that instead of the stereo anyway if you do both (from experience).
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: beeker on March 10, 2013, 03:39:58 PM
Bumping this old thread.

As i;ve upgraded my iphone to a 5, i cant use my old tomtom car kit.
I'm already ordered a Proclip physical cradle (with charging), and are now looking to upgrade the MP3 adapter to the factory Symphony.

I'm planning to use a bluetooth unit for streaming the music.

From a quick goggle, Grom and Dension seem popular?

Does anyone have direct experience here, on the B7 (ideally RS4)?
Please share your experience and recomendations.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: Period_Correct_ on January 20, 2017, 06:57:01 AM
Bump, sorry to bring back an old thread but it's pretty apt for what I'm after.

I would like to have phone connectivity and music streaming from my android phone as well as keep the interior looking as stock as possible.

Any tjps on this? So far I think the Exeo RNS-e is the latest Audi head unit that will fit and if you add the Bluetooth module you're good.

Anything else? SatNAV isn't high on the list as I can use my phone for directions, etc
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: coltspeed on January 20, 2017, 09:44:26 AM
I am keen on finding out also
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: GLIDN on January 20, 2017, 11:54:55 AM
Quote from: NasTnaS on January 20, 2017, 06:57:01 AM
Bump, sorry to bring back an old thread but it's pretty apt for what I'm after.

I would like to have phone connectivity and music streaming from my android phone as well as keep the interior looking as stock as possible.

Any tjps on this? So far I think the Exeo RNS-e is the latest Audi head unit that will fit and if you add the Bluetooth module you're good.

Anything else? SatNAV isn't high on the list as I can use my phone for directions, etc

the RNS-E is a stupid unit sorry. It's slow, clumsy, poor quality.
In this instance I would recommend a Android unit over the RNS-E.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: moochier on January 20, 2017, 04:40:41 PM
Quote from: coltspeed on January 20, 2017, 09:44:26 AM
I am keen on finding out also

Yeah me too, but I would be connecting an iPhone. Also Nav not important to me either.

What 'android' unit is good GLIDN?
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: Period_Correct_ on January 20, 2017, 05:04:50 PM
Any links to the android stuff?

Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: Poonmobile on January 21, 2017, 10:01:10 AM
I bought Beekers old Dension unit, was pretty easy to install and works pretty well off my phone streaming music. I didn't fix the microphone to take calls but that could be done too. I too prefer to keep the interior looking stock, so aftermarket units (to me) never look that good. Nice, when we meet up, you can see mine in action. And lets face it, you tend to listen to the engine and exhaust more than the music ;)
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: Period_Correct_ on January 23, 2017, 01:29:39 PM
yea Ash, the V8 noise is great....

What about the audi bluetooth unit? is that any good? im thinking that will keep me getting by with phone connectivity until i can work out where i can get the Seat Exeo RNS-E from at a reasonable price...

any ideas?
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: ranton-inc on January 23, 2017, 01:42:22 PM
Quote from: hrrrrsn on December 08, 2012, 02:46:02 PM
What other advantages would the RNS-E have over the Concert if navigation wasn't a concern? I'm fairly interested in ordering one

Rns-e is a waste of time. Nav doesnt work in NZ.

Its clunky to use and costs a fortune to buy ans is not worth the haslte.. ask me how i know.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: McDoof on January 23, 2017, 01:48:47 PM
Android units are mostly from China. I run one in my Golf.
https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20170122164010&SearchText=audi+rs4+android

They are all pretty much running the same spec so you just pick one with the look that you like best.

I really like mine and the stock sound from it is on par with the VAG unit I had in. Although I have now put in an amp etc. They have finally started popping up with 2GB of memory now which is a plus. Mine only has 1GB of memory and if I don't run the "rocket button" when I start it it runs like a pig.

The plus side of these units is that they run full android, so you can load up any apps you want. I have a 4G Wifi stick in my car which connects it to the internet and gives me spotify without needing my phone. Full up to date google maps if you have internet.

The negative for me is just the boot time. It takes a good 30 seconds from turning the car on before it starts working. A bit quicker if you are using FM only, but running a music app takes a bit of time and the thing as I have it is a bit slow.

I recently installed a reverse camera which I was a bit worried about in that I thought you would have to wait for the unit to boot before it works, but it seems to bypass the Android OS for the reverse camera and works from the start.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: Period_Correct_ on January 23, 2017, 04:14:07 PM
Quote from: ranton-inc on January 23, 2017, 01:42:22 PM
Rns-e is a waste of time. Nav doesnt work in NZ.

Its clunky to use and costs a fortune to buy ans is not worth the haslte.. ask me how i know.

It seems a few have said this. I don't mind an alternative as long as it looks in keeping with the dash.
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: ranton-inc on January 23, 2017, 04:16:13 PM
Quote from: NasTnaS on January 23, 2017, 04:14:07 PM
It seems a few have said this. I don't mind an alternative as long as it looks in keeping with the dash.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Android-5-1-Quad-Core-Car-DVD-player-For-Audi-RS4-2002-2003-2004-2005-2006/32732792010.html?spm=2114.30010308.3.2.WmSSRg&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_1_10065_10068_10000032_10000025_10000029_430_10000028_10060_10062_10056_10055_10054_10059_10099_10000022_10000012_10103_10102_10000015_10096_10000018_10000019_10052_10053_10107_10050_10106_10051_10000007_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10111_10112_10113_10114_10115_10033_10032_10000041_10000044_10078_10079_10077_10000038_429_10073_10000035-10102,searchweb201603_2,afswitch_2_afChannel,single_sort_1_default&btsid=f6f8664f-cb49-4325-849e-b05d022aee01

16gb Memory and looks like a clone of the RNS-e
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: McDoof on January 23, 2017, 04:20:59 PM
That only has one 1GB ram.
Better off with something that has 2GB of RAM
The 1GB models struggle to keep up with modern apps.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/7-Quad-Core-2GB-RAM-4G-LTE-SIM-WIFI-Android-6-0-Car-DVD-Player-Radio/32787990925.html
Title: Re: B7 RS4 2006 - Head unit options
Post by: Period_Correct_ on January 24, 2017, 04:39:34 PM
OK, so I've found these double din Blaupunkt radios with android auto and car play. They are designed for the VW and skoda which I think this means it has the rounded corners when compared to the B7 with sharp corners... If only this would fit the B7...

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.blaupunkt.com%2Fuploads%2Ftx_ddfproductsbp%2FBremen_955_0_1_2_3.jpg&hash=0e83ca7ac931a061d33243e0922571b68a05d8fb)

Many have said the RNS-e isnt that good, so I dont really want to go backwards....