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VOLKSWAGEN => Other Volkswagen => Topic started by: jimmyant on October 03, 2017, 03:41:31 PM

Title: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: jimmyant on October 03, 2017, 03:41:31 PM
Just been quoted $3100 to replace my EGR and Cooler on my Touareg 3.0 TDI - around $3100!!
Ouch.
Any other options - for example - after market parts, or removing altogether and running without it?
Really don't want to have to fork out that much if I can find a good alternative.
Thanks
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: lander91 on October 30, 2017, 04:04:20 PM
Sheesh! How old is your Touareg? Whos quoting you that much?
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: jimmyant on November 13, 2017, 09:22:40 AM
Its a 2011 150kW, but done 195ks.
A local European car service company in Mount Maunganui. Usually pretty good but was surprised at the quote this time.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: mark2 golf on November 13, 2017, 05:16:05 PM
I have done them with after market parts for auto sure and they come in at just under 2k
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: robh on November 14, 2017, 07:35:09 AM
Is it possible to delete EGR system completely and code out of ECU?

I know on the really old tech T4 diesels that's really common to do, no electronics though as a mechanical system.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: VW'n on November 14, 2017, 07:41:56 AM
https://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/egr-removal-delete/

Not sure if this is relevant to your car.
My quick read noted that if you have a dpf it is not suitable.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: HaNs on November 14, 2017, 08:31:02 AM
Quote from: robh on November 14, 2017, 07:35:09 AM
Is it possible to delete EGR system completely and code out of ECU?

I know on the really old tech T4 diesels that's really common to do, no electronics though as a mechanical system.

Yes it is possible
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: HaNs on November 14, 2017, 08:31:58 AM
Quote from: VW'n on November 14, 2017, 07:41:56 AM
https://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/egr-removal-delete/

Not sure if this is relevant to your car.
My quick read noted that if you have a dpf it is not suitable.

Some cars require EGR to do DPF regen as they use the EGR to increase cylinder temps.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: McDoof on November 14, 2017, 11:37:46 AM
EGR delete would also require a DPF delete then.
A mate of mine just had this done on his 125kw Passat due to DPF failure.
Requires a new downpipe for the DPF delete, EGR blanking plate and a good tune. It will probably end up setting you back about the same amount of $$$, if not a bit more.
The good part it, you gain a fair bit of power and torque. The bad part it that you will spit out a bit of smoke under heavy acceleration. But because these engines are already pretty clean burning anyway, it's really only a little bit.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: 80 Vert on February 02, 2018, 07:02:07 AM
I just took mine off, pulled it apart and cleaned it. all working again.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: jimmyant on March 09, 2018, 12:45:48 PM
Hi 80 vert,
Is it a big job to do?
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: GLIDN on March 09, 2018, 05:16:19 PM
Quote from: jimmyant on March 09, 2018, 12:45:48 PM
Hi 80 vert,
Is it a big job to do?

Dependent on the ASH/Soot level. They are not always recoverable at all.
However, there is a cleaning system we have done in the shop to a few and had great results.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: 80 Vert on March 09, 2018, 10:31:24 PM
Quote from: jimmyant on March 09, 2018, 12:45:48 PM
Hi 80 vert,
Is it a big job to do?

Not really, took me a couple of hours.
Still going fine a couple thousand ks later.
Ebay Germany is the place to get a new one.
They are a COMPLETE rip off here.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: ERRRNO on March 22, 2018, 08:19:30 AM
+1 for egr and dpf delete and tune! you wont recognise the car! (just a figure of speech)
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: 80 Vert on March 22, 2018, 08:27:36 AM
Diesel particulates are known to be some of the most harmful emissions and you want to remove the DPF......
DPF was invented for a reason.
Before long laws will come along where factory fitted emissions equipment will be required for WOF... then what.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: ERRRNO on March 22, 2018, 08:51:18 AM
YAWN
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: 80 Vert on March 22, 2018, 09:01:21 AM
Yes another very educated answer from you.
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: ERRRNO on March 22, 2018, 09:10:52 AM
Look man you're just trying to be difficult. You can currently Cert for DPF delete and so forth. Heck you can get a warrant with coilovers and spacers without a cert, people do it all the time. The WOF system is flawed beyond belief and I think you're clutching at straws here. VW themselves cheat the system for gods sake! Maybe you're just showing your age? ;)


In other news the EGR delete and DPF delete with tune will have a huge affect on the car and its my opinion that it would be a better way to spend the cash..... no more egr issues no more dpf issues and a maybe even a 80% power increase? :-X

as you were ol chap
Title: Re: EGR and Cooler replacement
Post by: 80 Vert on March 22, 2018, 09:32:36 AM
Not being difficult, just calling it as I see it.
I agree the WOF system is a joke much like other things we do in NZ but removing these emissions related components is just not a smart practise, maybe you don't value the life of your kids or kids you may have in future.
Many countries now have emissions testing for Diesel, DPF removal a big no no.

But as you say As you were ole chap.  ;)