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AUDI => 100 - 200 - S4 - V8 => Topic started by: B5_Bandit on April 01, 2018, 11:17:13 AM

Title: ISO: URS6 Manual swap parts.
Post by: B5_Bandit on April 01, 2018, 11:17:13 AM
Morning all,

Recently picked up a URS6 in great condition with only 140K on the clock. The only negative point about the car is the automatic transmission.

I have a spare 01E lying around from my B5 S4 project, I want to swap the 01E into my UR.

To do this i will need;
Manual pedal box
Gearbox with shifter linkage (unless i use my 01E, however still need the linkage)
Driveshaft
Half shafts
Slave and master cyclinder for clutch
Manual trans tunnel from donor car
Manual shifter trim (?)

If you have any of these parts please don't hesitate to contact me.

Regards,

Patrick.


Title: Re: ISO: URS6 Manual swap parts.
Post by: user2154 on April 02, 2018, 06:41:12 PM
I believe you need to remove the entire front console and dash and everything and cut the transmission tunnel and weld in a new piece. There is a thread here (couple of years ago) where one forum member has started the conversion but I don't know if he finished it.

Also search http://www.s2forum.com/

I have considered the manual conversion and it is not worth the cost, time or effort. The only benefit of a manual over an auto with this particular vehicle is that a manual allows you to upgrade to a big turbo, and to build a high horsepower engine.

Considering the cost and time frame of this project you could buy a manual version and save a lot of time and money, they come up for sale every now and then. Put that money instead towards the considerable cost of engine maintenance and building, turbo upgrades, ECU chip or VEMS, engine tuning, brakes, suspension and steering, it's a 20+ year old vehicle.

On a standard horsepower engine there is no benefit from the manual transmission over the auto trans and I would argue that the auto trans is better on this particular vehicle.

April fools?


Title: Re: ISO: URS6 Manual swap parts.
Post by: tjsmada on April 02, 2018, 11:25:33 PM
I?d second that . Keep your eyes peeled for a manual
Title: Re: ISO: URS6 Manual swap parts.
Post by: user2154 on April 21, 2018, 05:00:34 PM
So are you doing this? Keen to see your work log with photos if you go ahead with this conversion.

Title: Re: ISO: URS6 Manual swap parts.
Post by: B5_Bandit on April 21, 2018, 05:30:38 PM
I managed to track down a full conversion, however it was a lot more than I was willing to spend. And due to work and other commitments I don't get a lot of free time to work on my cars, so carrying out the swap itself would be another hurdle.

The car will most likely be put on the market in a couple of months and I'll look into buying a B7 RS4.
Title: Re: ISO: URS6 Manual swap parts.
Post by: user2154 on April 22, 2018, 06:27:28 PM
Fair enough and I would not recommend against selling it as it is over 20 years old now and not terribly fuel efficient by modern standards if you are after something newer and quicker. The automatic doesn't faze me as it is very quick to change down gears and accelerate when you put your foot down on the open road and auto is much more friendly to be driving on the Auckland motorway than a manual.

On the plus side they are built like a brick crap house, and this is a very low mileage for this vehicle, 400 - 500k km is a high mileage for these cars. New Zealand conditions are very forgiving compared to those in the USA and CA where these are popular, ie: where they salt the roads. The salt is very hard on the all of the external components causing premature wear and failure. Many of the failures you see on quattroforums (USA, CA) and s2forum (UK) are not a problem for New Zealand new vehicles.

So you should find that most of the steering and suspension components and bushings are all still in top notch condition, original parts. I replaced every bushing on my front suspension about 7 years ago and I wish I hadn't as many of the replacement bushings are now in worse condition that the original parts I removed! (which I still have in a box so I will put them back on one day). But there is a whole list of parts that are known to fail over time and many are becoming harder to source, such as coolant hoses which go soft etc. In your case this may not be such a problem as a lot of this failure is due to wear and tear and heat cycling ie: the damage correlates with the mileage of the vehicle.

My vehicle has done almost 300k km and there is minor shaft play in the turbo, it burns a bit of oil but I am pretty sure this is valve seals which I will tackle in due course. Currently doing R&R on the driveshaft but that should fix it for life.

Personally I find the ride to be more comfortable than many much newer vehicles that I have driven recently. The suspension performance of these beasts is far superior to many modern vehicles with factory lowered suspension, and the 110mm wheel arch clearance is off the charts!

But seriously a couple of things before you sell. 1: park in a supermarket and compare it to all of the other ugly ducklings parked around it, 2: take it for a 400km drive.