In approx a month I will be taking possession of my 1986 Audi coupe quattro.
I need to make room in my garage before I do, I will be rebuilding/restoring it.
The quattro was stripped but most of the parts are still there so I have started bringing home parts, one of the biggest parts is the engine. For whatever reason the original 2.2 engine was sold and what will be replacing it is a KG 2.1 turbo engine from a Audi 200 (what I can tell).
I was the second owner so I am quite excited to have it back in my care.
The rebuild will be a long winded affair and will depend on my health (I have been diagnosed with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome) and finances, I am not very good at updating or taking photos but will do my best.
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Wow you have your work cut out there! Please keep us up to date on progress :)
Quote from: RobClubley on June 20, 2017, 09:44:36 PM
Wow you have your work cut out there! Please keep us up to date on progress :)
You ever get the "I wish I had never sold that car"?, well this is it, i had thought I would never see it again and when I came across it, I promptly bought it.
I am no stranger to the spanners (have been fixing cars for most of my adult life, along with small motors, chainsaws etc).
The body is mostly rust free save for a bit by the sunroof.
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Under the windscreen
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And the rear of the roof and over the passenger side.
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They seem to be the common areas as well as boot hinges and A pillars.
I have a few coupe bits lying around. Might be able to help you out if you're missing stuff.
Nice one Rob.
I am going to need a sunroof, smoked tail lights, head lights. Will see over the next few weeks what else I need.
The car does have rust in the A pillar but is only surface
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Boot hinges seem ok.
any shots of the engine bay?
i have a few bits kicking around that i may be able to help you with...good luck,good to see another CQ on here
Quote from: slowburn on June 21, 2017, 06:26:25 PM
any shots of the engine bay?
i have a few bits kicking around that i may be able to help you with...good luck,good to see another CQ on here
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Pm me if you like about the parts you have, cheers.
Fitting a 10v turbo from a 200 running on kjet is a real pita. Easier to ditch it in favor of efi. Ill have a look for what typ85 stuff I have left as I had a major clear out a few months a go
Don't know if you're on Facebook but there's a groups called "Audi Ur Quattro GB"
Someone on there selling a sunroof for 40 quid.
Postage would add a bit though.
Quote from: RobClubley on June 22, 2017, 10:04:19 PM
Don't know if you're on Facebook but there's a groups called "Audi Ur Quattro GB"
Someone on there selling a sunroof for 40 quid.
Postage would add a bit though.
Would be better than mine.....
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How does one identify a quattro gearbox, I have two (possibly 3)
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There will be a code on the bellhousing, will be 2 or 3 letters follwed by some numbers, the letters are the identification code
Found them
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What gearboxes do I have?, ratios etc.
The AAJ is from a c3 quattro, the US is from a b2 quattro. Both are 4.11 final drive ratio.
US
1st-3.600
2nd-2.125
3rd-1.458
4th-1.071
5th-.778
final-4.11:1
AAJ
1st-3.600
2nd-2.125
3rd-1.360
4th-.967
5th-.730
Quote from: 00quattro00 on June 26, 2017, 10:15:51 PM
The AAJ is from a c3 quattro, the US is from a b2 quattro. Both are 4.11 final drive ratio.
US
1st-3.600
2nd-2.125
3rd-1.458
4th-1.071
5th-.778
final-4.11:1
AAJ
1st-3.600
2nd-2.125
3rd-1.360
4th-.967
5th-.730
Good info, have been searching but nothing like that came up. Which is the better box?, I assume they are largely the same aside from 3rd, 4th, 5th ratios? or are there other differences?.
Only difference is the ratios, identical boxes otherwise.
Who knows of a website that can translate one of these?
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Quote from: Audi do on July 01, 2017, 05:17:31 PM
Who knows of a website that can translate one of these?
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This any use?
http://b2resource.com/optioncodes.php
Quote from: Audi do on June 27, 2017, 09:31:06 AM
Good info, have been searching but nothing like that came up. Which is the better box?, I assume they are largely the same aside from 3rd, 4th, 5th ratios? or are there other differences?.
What gearbox to use and which is the better box?. Are the bearings/gears the same or are they different?
What ratio box should I use?, I am tending to use the US box because I want good torque assuming it will take the power from the turbo engine?.
Use the aaj box, better ratios.
They are identical internally and are the same strength. You will not be able to break any box with a 10v
Nice,
I want to run (if I can find them) 15" 5 stud Ronals. Can I press out the 4 stud hub and press in the 5 stud hub?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1402900099
If he's staying 4 stud he needs 4 x 108.Those are 4 x 100 unfortunately....
I would like to go to 5x112 but that depends on if I can press out the 4x108 hubs and press in the 5x112 hubs and if the 5 studs hubs are available.
You can use the rear hubs from a b5 quattro. The only thing is they have 8mm more offset on them so require the use of the correct rotors, you can also modify c3 front struts like what the ur used
What parts have people for a 86 Typ85 Audi Coupe quattro?, I need twin filament Cibie headlights (also fitted to Audi Coupe GT), smoked rear tail lights, rear boot wing, 4x108 14" Ronal's or (preferably) 5x112 15" Ronal's. (maybe fitted to some Audi 80 20valves?).
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I have fishnet Recaro seats from a Isuzu Bighorn (look remarkably similar to the seats that used to reside in the quattro) but need seat mounts to adapt to the Recaro seats.
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keep an eye out for a non runner and pillage all the bits off it? i'm heading to ohakune on sat night to dj ,maybe i could pop my head over the fence on sunday at smash palace( they're closed sun )and see if the CQ there has it's lights and spoiler.... maybe someone else may know if it does?
I vaguely remember years ago that the bighorn seats weren't suitable for transplanting into cars. Something to do with the upright stance in the bighorn. May have simply been the mounts/runners rather than the seats themselves. Might want to check out fitment before you go too far
Classic Quattros have started making reproduction smoked tail lights if you can't find any here.
https://www.facebook.com/classicquattros/posts/2032228800338536
I still have the boot spoiler from the GT I stripped, somewhere in my garage!
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/audi/auction-1405647605.htm
this guy had a coupe being stripped a few months back?
https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s-anzeige/ronal-r8-alufelgen-4x108-7x15-et-38-audi-80-90-coupe-quattro/710137078-223-5273
these are boss dawg.silly expensive though
this guy may have some insight on the 5 stud swap or at the very least have a set of the 14 inch factory ronals for ya.....?
http://www.vask.org.nz/index.php/topic,21135.0.html
and this guy has front folding seats for a mk1 and mk2 golf that would suit what you need to do until you source something better?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=1407749547&tm=email&et=202&mt=D1F09FA2-BD36-4F6C-B4CC-64A54D36A871&rewritten=true
I definitely have a spare boot spoiler.
This one:
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i may have a few bits,i def have one tail light but it isn't smoked and is pretty thrashed...better to find a donor and savage it for everything you need,that guy in nelson that i gave you the link to above has a whole car.....in bits,prob has everything you need
Cheers for the help.
I definatly need to find a donor, I fear being nickel and dimed to death otherwise.
I also need a sunroof and fittings.
Quote from: RobClubley on September 03, 2017, 08:20:42 PM
I definitely have a spare boot spoiler.
This one:
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Rob, I would be interested, does the spoiler take to being painted?, the spoiler on my car was body colour and I would like it to remain so.
Quote from: Audi do on September 04, 2017, 11:05:42 AM
Rob, I would be interested, does the spoiler take to being painted?, the spoiler on my car was body colour and I would like it to remain so.
It's plain rubber but the one on my urq was painted, so it can be done.
One of the cars at Smash Palace had a sunroof last time i went a year ago. The car was covered in lichen and stuff but looked solid.
Dad said he could take a fiberglass mold from the sunroof I have, he said either that or make one out of mdf or plywood.
you should ask this guy for the parts car?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/audi/auction-1412499464.htm
Quote from: slowburn on September 20, 2017, 07:22:32 PM
you should ask this guy for the parts car?
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/used-cars/audi/auction-1412499464.htm
Certainly no harm in asking but then to get it transported to Dunedin and store it.
Are you based in Dunedin? I have a parts car 90 quattro that may help if you get stuck for common parts between the two platforms. Cheers Adam
Quote from: 90_B2 Quattro on April 24, 2018, 01:23:33 PM
Are you based in Dunedin? I have a parts car 90 quattro that may help if you get stuck for common parts between the two platforms. Cheers Adam
Yes, in Dunedin.
That would be awesome. Can you message me please?.
Hi Audi do,
I'm in Dunedin also. Give me a shout as I have the odd part from my Ur quattro's. Nothing major though. Rear spoiler, front grill (new), headlights from my old '84 Ur...
Regards, Glen
Quote from: GlenT on April 29, 2018, 09:54:44 AM
Hi Audi do,
I'm in Dunedin also. Give me a shout as I have the odd part from my Ur quattro's. Nothing major though. Rear spoiler, front grill (new), headlights from my old '84 Ur...
Regards, Glen
Glen, it just so happens they are all parts I need.
After a hiatus I am close to getting the car into my garage and start the restomod, that starts with fitting the front subframe then the wheels then moved to my place..
Nice look forward to following another quattro build.
Car is now in my garage. Let the rebuild commence!.
Trying to work out how to post pictures, anybody got any tips and tricks?, cheers.
Imgur seems to work OK for pics
I use imgur.
Up load pic to imgur then copy the bb code under the links tab of the pic.
Paste bb code into your forum post and picture should show when you post.
I can't seem to make it work using their app so I just go to the web page.
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Oo it's red. Red ones go faster!
Lots to do there.
Yep, definitely some work required here.
Looking forward to the progress reports on another rebuild
Quote from: RobClubley on June 10, 2018, 07:06:56 AM
Oo it's red. Red ones go faster!
Lots to do there.
Tornado red to be exact :D
Quote from: brian on June 10, 2018, 08:28:36 AM
Yep, definitely some work required here.
Looking forward to the progress reports on another rebuild
It will be a long build, as and when finance and health permit.
I want the build to be a pleasure and not turn into a drag.
My first Audi was Tornado Red - a 1991 90 Sport.
Where in the country are you? I have all sorts of Coupe bits stashed so might be able to help out with things.
Dunedin.
As you can see I am going to need all sorts of parts.
I have the doors, boot lid, dash pad, door panels, engine and gearbox/s.
Over the next week or so I am going to make a list of parts needed.
The car was stripped and then the shell was left outside in the elements and I have noticed bad rust (holes) under the drivers rear quarter.
Is this Willie Gardeners old coupe quattro that got stripped to SWB convert?
great photo of the engine bay side of the fire wall as it gives a clearer look at the prospects of turbo conversion by showing the location of things. where the brake MC would need to to be moved to on the left and battery tray deleted and relocated to the back somewhere in the boot. big job ,but a cool blank canvas
Quote from: 90_B2 Quattro on August 10, 2018, 10:34:10 AM
Is this Willie Gardeners old coupe quattro that got stripped to SWB convert?
Was.
It is mine again, I was the second owner and have been looking for it ever since I let it go.
Quote from: slowburn on August 12, 2018, 04:51:39 PM
great photo of the engine bay side of the fire wall as it gives a clearer look at the prospects of turbo conversion by showing the location of things. where the brake MC would need to to be moved to on the left and battery tray deleted and relocated to the back somewhere in the boot. big job ,but a cool blank canvas
Was fixing to move the battery to the boot, unsure about the brake mc, would need to fit the engine or have been thinking about a custom exhaust manifold.
Starting to look like an engine room after a bit of cleaning.
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Looking pretty tidy in the wheel wells, some one has sprayed preservative around so there is little to no rust.
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In rust (and bog) we trust.
This is on the front left leading edge of the bonnet.
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This is drivers side front guard
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And this is where a driverless car run down a hill and crashed into the back corner when I owned it in 1996 (I watched this happen). The bog is from a panel beaters 'repair', the bog is at least 5mm thick.
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