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VOLKSWAGEN => Mk6 Golf - Jetta - Scirocco - Beetle => Topic started by: Pjai on February 09, 2019, 07:17:31 PM

Title: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: Pjai on February 09, 2019, 07:17:31 PM
Hi,

Just today the car started to have difficulty starting, takes a few rough cranks before the engine will start. It seems to drive fine afterwards but it's throwing engine check light.

Possibly something to do with fuel delivery side of things?
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: 80 Vert on February 09, 2019, 08:26:47 PM
Timing chain. STOP DRIVING IT
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: GLIDN on February 12, 2019, 06:01:54 PM
probably timing chain as mentioned.

however it's possible it could just have been a really, really flat battery as well?
A little difficult to diagnose with limited information.
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: Naekyr on February 15, 2019, 09:57:17 AM
What year is it?
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: Pjai on February 15, 2019, 04:50:37 PM
2010, Fault codes below.


001089 - EVAP Emission Control Sys

               P0441 - 000 - Incorrect Flow - Intermittent

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 00100000

                    Fault Priority: 0

                    Fault Frequency: 8

                    Reset counter: 255

                    Mileage: 109065 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2013.06.29

                    Time: 11:50:37



             Freeze Frame:

                    RPM: 841 /min

                    Load: 27.8 %

                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

                    Temperature: 96.0?C

                    Temperature: 48.0?C

                    Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar

                    Voltage: 13.970 V



000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28)

               P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - MIL ON

             Freeze Frame:

                    Fault Status: 11100000

                    Fault Priority: 0

                    Fault Frequency: 1

                    Reset counter: 255

                    Mileage: 109339 km

                    Time Indication: 0

                    Date: 2013.07.03

                    Time: 15:36:24



             Freeze Frame:

                    RPM: 823 /min

                    Load: 26.3 %

                    Speed: 0.0 km/h

                    Temperature: 99.0?C

                    Temperature: 60.0?C

                    Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar

                    Voltage: 13.589 V

Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: 80 Vert on February 15, 2019, 06:02:27 PM
Timing chain slipped due to failed tensioner. Hope you've stopped trying to start it.
DO NOT CRANK OVER till you've checked timing and checked tensioner or replaced however good chance damage done already.
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: Worms on February 15, 2019, 08:24:06 PM
^^^^ He's not joking!  :'(

000022 - Bank 1: CMP Sensor (G40) / Engine Speed Sensor (G28)

               P0016 - 000 - Incorrect Correlation - MIL ON

Suggests the chain HAS slipped - it can be catasrophic and needs to be trucked to a tech who knows what they are doing. If it's not already damaged, just trying to start it again could be enough to cause a lot more damage.

Sad news, but don't try to start it again is the best advice!
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: McDoof on February 18, 2019, 11:16:51 AM
Another MK6 GTI. VW should be really be replacing these faulty tensioners under warranty or factory recall. It should't be acceptable
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: Naekyr on February 18, 2019, 03:09:08 PM
There was a successful lawsuit over in the U.S https://www.timingchainlitigation.com/
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: 80 Vert on February 18, 2019, 06:09:33 PM
Car is 10 years old done over 100km. As far as any manufacturer goes it's day is done.
This fault also constantly gets mentioned yet most people ignore till too late.
Our car had done 29k when I first read about it. Changed them a week later.
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: Pjai on February 18, 2019, 07:20:44 PM
Ok, so from what the service rep tried to convey to me, it was not the tension but the camshaft bridge.
Title: Re: Mk6 GTI Difficult to Start
Post by: 80 Vert on February 18, 2019, 07:27:34 PM
That makes no sense. Did they replace the chain and tensioner? If not then insist they do!