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VOLKSWAGEN => Mk2 Golf - Jetta - Corrado => Topic started by: Angle on March 30, 2008, 11:06:07 PM

Title: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on March 30, 2008, 11:06:07 PM
I'm looking for a few good parts, and I thought posting my build might help. I'm starting with a clean Jetta shell, and want to upgrade the engine, transmission and interior. I'm looking for good seats, doorcards, rear parcel tray, A, B & C pillar covers in black or gray.

If you like the blue interior, make me an offer. Also, if you need the Auto box it's also for sale, as is the engine and stock suspension. PM me for additional details. Here's the starting point:

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Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: gti vr6 on March 31, 2008, 07:35:19 AM
Are you on a life style block Dennis?
That blue dash is hawt as  :D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on March 31, 2008, 12:27:50 PM
Yeah, that pile of trees behind the car is a weekend's worth of work. We needed to move the shelter belt over, so new trees will get planted once it starts to rain.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on March 31, 2008, 02:06:07 PM
Its raining now :D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on March 31, 2008, 06:11:22 PM
This is one of my favorite Jetta's.

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But, wanting to stay happily married (a complete strip and re-spray won't go down too well at this point), this is where my project is headed, although I may still keep the Jetta front.

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Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Filx on March 31, 2008, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on March 30, 2008, 11:06:07 PM
I'm looking for a few good parts, and I thought posting my build might help. I'm starting with a clean Jetta shell, and want to upgrade the engine, transmission and interior. I'm looking for good seats, doorcards, rear parcel tray, A, B & C pillar covers in black or gray.

If you like the blue interior, make me an offer. Also, if you need the Auto box it's also for sale, as is the engine and stock suspension. PM me for additional details. Here's the starting point:

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi204.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb31%2FDicardo4%2FGreen%2520GTI%2FJettaStock023.jpg&hash=52e0735af93b47eeefe6d4a7eb1a00bd95cc46d6)


Dang - that Jetta looks really familiar  :-\  :laugh:  Great work Dennis - fantastic to see another cool VASK project in the making. Please keep the Jetta face - maybe just with an eyebrow spoiler? The square lights are so much less common of a sight in NZ.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on March 31, 2008, 07:02:35 PM
I hate eyebrow spoilers! I can't find new headlights, hence considering an alternative face.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: spooln on April 01, 2008, 08:58:55 PM
That jetta looks super straigt. Good luck with the project. Flix, what are you driving now?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on April 02, 2008, 09:09:47 AM
It's the shape of the body that convinced me to do this up rather than the Golf. It's got a few bits of rust and a couple of dings, but no-respray required.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: gti vr6 on April 02, 2008, 09:12:33 AM
I like the look of the silver one with the Golf face. Good buying Dennis. All the best with the project.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Period_Correct_ on April 02, 2008, 09:27:47 AM
nice 1 Dennis. good to see another jetta project...  ;)
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on April 03, 2008, 10:32:54 PM
Does anyone know where to buy a rear spoiler? I've looked for a few nights and come up blank. I don't want to buy private from overseas, but a company is fine.

Vert and I talked about what I wanted to do, and as a result, he's going to get involved in transforming the Mk2 into a Mk3 hybrid. Essentially I should end up with a Mk2 Jetta shell wrapped around a Mk3. I'm grateful Vert has some time to help me with this.

I've called around looking for good door cards, and Brendon seems to be the only person with some that may suit? Black or grey are fine. I've found a grey carpet. I've asked Platinum to look for doorcards for me, and I'm guessing that if they get a Mk2 with good door cards in, I'll be able to grab the A,B & C pillar caps as well.

I'm also looking for a grey rear parcel tray, so any help there would be appreciated. I've condensed all this in the classified sections. By the way, the blue interior is in great shape if anyone wants to convert their car to blue ;). I won't need any Mk2 interior bits other than what I've described, so you could put together your own Smurf machine.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: qta4 on April 03, 2008, 10:42:58 PM
Angleblingbox ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on April 03, 2008, 10:49:49 PM
Quote from: qta4 on April 03, 2008, 10:42:58 PM
Angleblingbox ;D

I'm with you on this one. No bling, just neat and tidy.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on April 04, 2008, 05:17:36 PM
I'm looking at suspension with 300# Fr 280# rear spring rates. Bildon have advised to go up to 500 fr / 450 rear. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: GLIDN on April 04, 2008, 05:27:13 PM
on suspension i cannot comment, as for rear parcel shelf, we could always recarpet it with black or grey??
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: robh on April 04, 2008, 05:58:15 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on April 04, 2008, 05:17:36 PM
I'm looking at suspension with 300# Fr 280# rear spring rates. Bildon have advised to go up to 500 fr / 450 rear. Any thoughts?

500/450 sounds like a pretty high spring rate for a road car to me.

I'm running 350 in the front with a big old heavy VR6 and it's fairly stiff on the road, still rolls a bit on the track.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on April 04, 2008, 06:31:46 PM
Def too heavy. If you do the same as Robh, even then I think you will find them too stiff with quite a bit less weight over the front.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on April 04, 2008, 09:24:52 PM
Quote from: dubbed on April 04, 2008, 05:27:13 PM
on suspension i cannot comment, as for rear parcel shelf, we could always recarpet it with black or grey??

Good idea. I like a factory look, so I'll keep an eye peeled for the right carpet. Your VR6 seats look grey?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on April 04, 2008, 09:26:51 PM
Quote from: robh on April 04, 2008, 05:58:15 PM
500/450 sounds like a pretty high spring rate for a road car to me.

I'm running 350 in the front with a big old heavy VR6 and it's fairly stiff on the road, still rolls a bit on the track.

I'm running 350# with the Anglia and really like the ride, although it is probably not as intrusive as a result of the overall car not being very refined. I thought 300 sounded right, so thanks for confirming. Noel, how about that! Stiffer front than rear, just as you've set up; were you watching the US boys?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: robh on April 05, 2008, 08:33:58 AM
There is a more accurate way to get the spring rate.

You need to measure the length of your existing springs while the car is on it wheels, then take them out and give them to Stocks workshop, they will measure the spring rate of your existing springs and compare that with the free length versus the compressed length.  They can then advise you how much weight they are supporting and what sort of spring rate would be suitable for your style of driving.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: RS ZWEI on April 07, 2008, 07:48:45 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on April 04, 2008, 05:17:36 PM
I'm looking at suspension with 300# Fr 280# rear spring rates. Bildon have advised to go up to 500 fr / 450 rear. Any thoughts?

Dennis, if its going to be your daily driver, why dont you buy an off the shelf suspension kit. I dont see why you want to reinvent the wheel?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on April 07, 2008, 08:13:17 AM
Quote from: Golfboy666GTI on April 07, 2008, 07:48:45 AM
Dennis, if its going to be your daily driver, why dont you buy an off the shelf suspension kit. I dont see why you want to reinvent the wheel?

Both of those are off the shelf kits, but their site didn't specify spring rates, hence asking Bildon what they were.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 04, 2008, 01:25:12 PM
Going out with my boys today to do a bit of bowling, then bring the car into the garage and strip out the interior. A few parts arrived (water pump and thermostat). I bought some used rims on TM and went to the shop to see them yesterday. They are extremely light - I'd guess 15 pounds for 16" rims! Qta and I are doing a spring swap so the Jetta will end up with a lower stance.

The more exciting bits are still in a warehouse somewhere. I've ordered a new sway bar which bolts to the rear section and another 'typical' rear sway bar can be added later to fine tune the suspension. Camber adjustment bolts for the front end, a short shift kit, lightweight flywheel and performance clutch round out the new parts.

The Mk3 seats have been stripped and are having a subtle center panel inserted. I'm still struggling with door cards though. I want them to tie into the new interior but don't want to pay to have the panels re-covered. Vert1 has organised all the new little maintenance parts and steam cleaned/degreased the ABF engine.

We're due to strip the mechanicals on Tuesday. Can't wait to get this thing started. Still looking for a rear spoiler and I'd also like some 16v door side trim.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Period_Correct_ on May 04, 2008, 03:03:06 PM
i might have all my interior for sale soon.. i'll keep you posted.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 09, 2008, 04:41:33 PM
And so...... another project begins. The car has been gutted to within an inch of its life, everything forward of the rear axle has been stripped and most of it binned.
Anglebox played with some nasty chemicals last night and the results are quite surprising, just a good clean in the engine bay and the underside of the bonnet has made things look a whole lot better.

I had already degreased and steamcleaned the MK3 subframe and powersteer rack so that all got bolted up yesterday. I had intended to use the MK3 front crossmember but to make this fit was going to be too much effort so instead I'll use the MK2 one and modify the engine mount area so we can install a nice MK3 VF uprated one.

Todays progress was quite good, got the shifterbox mounted, brake booster mounted, pedals mounted, ABS pump and ecu mounted and also custom made most of the brake lines to suit.
The pump has all its brake lines connected and just waiting for the susp to go in.
I'm not that happy with the way the pedals sit in the car as it seems the brake booster is mounted higher in a MK2 body so i'm going to lengthen them both to suit.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 09, 2008, 06:29:36 PM
Here a few pics from earlier in the day. John's a pretty speedy fellow  :laugh:.

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Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Filx on May 09, 2008, 06:44:03 PM
Yeehaaaaaaaaaaa Mk2 projects are the shizzle! This and Brendan's are gonna be awesome! Plus all the existing ones - phwooar. Man there's some cool VASK cars that have come together in the last few years with no let up on the horizon! LOVE IT  ;D :o 8) :-* >:D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 09, 2008, 07:40:45 PM
Here's an idea as to how the inside will look!

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Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Jetta CLI on May 09, 2008, 08:56:49 PM
you so lucky to have a jetta project  ;)
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Filx on May 09, 2008, 09:55:59 PM
Sweet. Is that a Mk4 shift knob I see?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 09, 2008, 10:19:58 PM
It is. Not certain I'll be as fortunate. Will need to see how the budget works out. So far, all projections are I have exactly $.43 left to spend.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: gti vr6 on May 10, 2008, 06:53:00 AM
Looking good guys!!

Will you run the air bags like in the car pictured?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 10, 2008, 08:14:50 AM
Vert1 talked me into a full conversion. Airbags, ABS, full suspension, wiring loom, etc. Should be pretty nifty!
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Period_Correct_ on May 10, 2008, 09:23:38 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 10, 2008, 08:14:50 AM
Vert1 talked me into a full conversion. Airbags, ABS, full suspension, wiring loom, etc. Should be pretty nifty!

good stufff, that'll be the way to do it!
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: gti vr6 on May 10, 2008, 11:38:56 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 10, 2008, 08:14:50 AM
Vert1 talked me into a full conversion. Airbags, ABS, full suspension, wiring loom, etc. Should be pretty nifty!

If you have it you might as well use it... Good one.
Like flix says its another awesome project. Look forward to seeing the car re-assembled and rejuvinated  8)
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 10, 2008, 06:27:21 PM
Haha you're a funny guy! Talked me into it, didn't take much then did it?  ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 10, 2008, 06:38:38 PM
Quote from: vert1 on May 10, 2008, 06:27:21 PM
Haha you're a funny guy! Talked me into it, didn't take much then did it?  ;D

The official press documents state the following: "It's all Vert's fault"
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Audi Life on May 10, 2008, 06:48:45 PM
It's true, I read them :police:
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 10, 2008, 06:49:32 PM
Ohh well thats ok then, I'm used to getting the blame.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 12, 2008, 05:30:36 PM
Lots of progress today with 2 of us working on the Jetta.
Started off this morning by cutting away the extra firewall bulkhead that MK2's have so that we can fit the MK3 heater/AC box.
None of the holes realy line up exept the large oval one where the heater core pipes come out through, we just made a cardboard template and transfered all the dimentions to the MK2 firewall and started cutting.

Also had to cut a hole for the AC drain since this car will now have AC too. Trial fitted the box a couple of times to get it sitting right and then realised that the air intake for the fan is in the wrong place on the MK2 body so another plate was fabbed up for that to correct the problem.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 12, 2008, 05:57:09 PM
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This shows the bulkhead cut away and primed with black zinc
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 12, 2008, 06:08:54 PM
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We ended up usin a MK3 throttle pedal as I didn't like the way the MK2 one runs up through the rain tray and then its quite a sharp bend for it to connect onto the ABF engine. Solution was to make a couple of brackets to position the MK3 pedal where I wanted it and weld in place.
It now uses a MK3 ABF throttle cable and exits through the firewall where a MK3 one would.

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The heaterbox has a new core in it as I don't want to be pulling it all apart again when the old one starts leaking. So after fitting the throttle pedal and engine bay wiring the heaterbox was fitted again and is there to stay now.
While the heaterbox was out I also made a plate for the airbag module to sit on which was welded to the tunnel in the same place where it would sit in a MK3.

With the heaterbox in place the AC lines were run and re bent a little to suit the MK2 body. You'll also see the ABS unit in place along with the shifter cables etc.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 12, 2008, 06:25:53 PM
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All the wiring looks kinda messy now and doesn't realy come out in a picture but where everything is placed looks really factory.
The brake booster is ready to go back in as all the wiring is now in place and runs through the firewall behind the booster so it was a lot easier to take it out for this job.
Will have to lengthen the pedals as they are way too high off the floor, It seems that MK3 pedal boxes are mounted lower in the car and therefore have shorter pedal arms but again some mods will fix that.

All the brake lines were re-bent where possible for a factory look and clipped to the firewall to keep them straight and out of the way.
The rear lines were too short to plug into the ABS pump so I had to machine some double ended fittings to be able to lengthen them so they could reach the pump.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 12, 2008, 07:45:22 PM
WOW  :o Talk about a productive day! Looks like it will be wrapped up by Friday! Unfortunately some key parts from the States haven't arrived yet. I really wish sites would be more accurate when things are a) on backorder or b) need to be sourced from another warehouse  >:(
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: qta4 on May 12, 2008, 07:54:39 PM
Are you taking sick leave Dennis to complete the toy project?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 12, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
This one's not a toy project. It's the real deal, as she will become my daily. No sick leave, but I may book a few more afternoon appointments.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: gti vr6 on May 12, 2008, 08:09:42 PM
dennis you have a car fetish, are you getting treatment?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 12, 2008, 08:10:46 PM
Man I wish the flywheel and clutch were here  ;)
The motor and box would go in this week.
At a risk of jinxing the project I won't say much more, Paul and I will try and get another day on it tomorow, plans are to strip the rear susp out and remove the drum brakes.
The MK3 fuel tank was modified a little today so hopefully that will bolt right in tomorow and I'll run another fuel line to the front as the Jetta was carbed and is a line short.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: qta4 on May 12, 2008, 08:11:09 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 12, 2008, 07:59:17 PM
This one's not a toy project. It's the real deal, as she will become my daily. No sick leave, but I may book a few more afternoon appointments.

Do you think SHE will enjoy riding on Eibach springs,you may have to hotmix your driveway if you want to keep your oil pan in one piece.
I take no respnsibility if the oil pan gets a hole in it. >:D ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 12, 2008, 09:13:26 PM
Quote from: gti vr6 on May 12, 2008, 08:09:42 PM
dennis you have a car fetish, are you getting treatment?

Self medicating. A few days ago I came to the realisation I had a problem. That's step 1 right?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 12, 2008, 09:19:45 PM
Quote from: qta4 on May 12, 2008, 08:11:09 PM
Do you think SHE will enjoy riding on Eibach springs,you may have to hotix your driveway if you want to keep your oil pan in one piece.
I take no respnsibility if the oil pan gets a hole in it. >:D ;D

Sure, now that my springs are in your car you can afford to be liberal with the truth. Just put a bit of 20mm metal on the drive today. It'll be perfect - oil pan safe! (new shape below - no photo's by my better half of today's work)

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Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 13, 2008, 05:11:45 PM
Another good day on the car today with lots achieved.
The MK2 rain box is significantly smaller than a MK3 one so fitting the ABF's ECU wasn't going to be easy, there's no room to mount it lengthways in there so I had to make a couple of mounts for it to sit on in a left to right configuration.
The good thing is that it sits on the highest part of the box so well out of harms way and the MK2 rain tray still fits neatly where its supposed to be.
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The Eibach springs arrived from QTA4 today so we were able to install them on the Sachs sportline shocks that are going in the car.
The rear drum brakes came off today and MK3 GTI discs went on, a small mod was needed on the rear beam to allow enough clearance for the rear ABS sensors to fit but thats all as the rest just bolts on.
It still needs some new hoses in the rear but other than that its pretty much complete in the rear.
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The front also has Sachs shocks with Eibachs and these went together easily, we are using the 288mm brakes of a 16V GTI, new strutmounts installed to replace the knackered old stuff.
Once the rear bias valve is removed and new hoses are on the whole system can be bled completing the brakes.
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All we need now Anglebox is PARTS!!!  :P
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 13, 2008, 05:22:34 PM
The good news is the parts are in transit ... the bad news; within the US still  :P
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: gti vr6 on May 14, 2008, 05:11:54 PM
Hey Dennis, your new brakes turned up @ the dubshack today....

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Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 14, 2008, 06:53:35 PM
I've been waiting for those! Thanks  ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 14, 2008, 07:10:58 PM
Anyone run 195/45's on 7" wide rim? I'd like to know what the stretch is like. And I'm looking for some factor front fog lamps to fit a big bumper.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Filx on May 14, 2008, 08:40:10 PM
195s on a 7" rim is zero stretch. Even with 45s I think you'd be looking at a vertical sidewall at best. The tire type will determine whether the sidewall tucks in slightly at the top or not.

If you are sourcing some 195/45s I'd be in for a set if there's any advantage to getting a couple of sets at once  :)
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: robh on May 14, 2008, 09:17:26 PM
What brake setup is that?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 14, 2008, 09:21:13 PM
The fake plastic cover kind  ;)
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: robh on May 14, 2008, 10:43:43 PM
Bleed nipples are upside down as well  :P
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: GTI's on May 14, 2008, 10:49:50 PM
Bremblows  ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 15, 2008, 08:33:40 AM
Quote from: Filx on May 14, 2008, 08:40:10 PM
195s on a 7" rim is zero stretch. Even with 45s I think you'd be looking at a vertical sidewall at best. The tire type will determine whether the sidewall tucks in slightly at the top or not.

If you are sourcing some 195/45s I'd be in for a set if there's any advantage to getting a couple of sets at once  :)

I'll ask! They're not cheap .... PM sent.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: 80 Vert on May 15, 2008, 05:02:15 PM
Not much happened today but I did cut a big hole in the back of the car, since we are using 60/40 split seats out of the MK3 Golf it would be a shame not to be able to carry large/long items in the boot because of the rear parcell shelf support so I just cut it out. New bracing was run from left to right and also braced down to the rear strut towers for added strength, probably way overkill but thats the way I like it. Next on the list will be to weld in the MK3 mounts for the rear seats so that they function like they are supposed to.
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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: chis on May 15, 2008, 06:54:34 PM
those shocks look nice- im guessing the sportline is a slightly uprated shock over standard?  im looking for some shocks to match my eibachs in the mk2, that arent ridiculously expensive- how much were these?  via qta4 huh?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 15, 2008, 08:19:09 PM
Quote from: chis on May 15, 2008, 06:54:34 PM
those shocks look nice- im guessing the sportline is a slightly uprated shock over standard?  im looking for some shocks to match my eibachs in the mk2, that arent ridiculously expensive- how much were these?  via qta4 huh?

They were on the parts car so a bit of a punt to see how they work with the lowered springs and for how long. QTA and I did a spring swap - win/win  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 17, 2008, 07:17:49 PM
This is the wheel off-set I'm looking to achieve:

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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on May 17, 2008, 07:49:56 PM
Quote from: chis on May 15, 2008, 06:54:34 PM
those shocks look nice- im guessing the sportline is a slightly uprated shock over standard?  im looking for some shocks to match my eibachs in the mk2, that arent ridiculously expensive- how much were these?  via qta4 huh?

I try to give things away :D

Eibach springs swap for stock,,thats fair
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Filx on May 17, 2008, 11:36:07 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 17, 2008, 07:17:49 PM
This is the wheel off-set I'm looking to achieve:


Awesome stance!

Those look like SportMax 501s, they'll be 15x8s I'd say with that lip. They only come in 2 offsets IIRC - 0 and +25 or something funky like that.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Period_Correct_ on May 18, 2008, 08:41:05 PM
my car had that.... 15x8 25et....
Quote from: Filx on May 17, 2008, 11:36:07 PM
Awesome stance!

Those look like SportMax 501s, they'll be 15x8s I'd say with that lip. They only come in 2 offsets IIRC - 0 and +25 or something funky like that.

what he said
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 19, 2008, 08:34:02 PM
Been a HUGE day on the Jetta with leaps of progress, started off with the dash this morning. A quick trial fit told me that it was way too wide to ever fit in its stock size and some (A LOT OF) trimming was needed.
We peeled back the original dash material so we would only cut the foam and plastic meaning the vinyl can be wrapped and glued back over the dash later.

The dash needs to sit where I want it so that this will then tell me where the metal support is going to sit.
We made a template of the front window curvature and traced this onto the MK3 dash, a lot of cutting followed by 6-7 trail fits, each time cutting a bit more for the right look and fit. Bolted the dash through the firewall to hold it in place.
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At this point the dash came out again. The metal support bar was narrowed by cutting the original mounts off and then bolted to the MK3 dash.
Re installed the dash with support in place, the dash has a metal plate that fastens to the tunnel so a bracket with captive bolts was fabbed and welded to the tunnel so that the factory MK3 dash support can be used.
This also allowed the metal support to be held enough that the dash skin could be removed again to better access the dash support structure.
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Once the dash was out we could easily measure depth and height from side to side to make sure the support bar was sitting level and in the right place
With a couple more brackets made and tack welded we installed the dash again to check everything
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Everything came out realy good so all brackets etc were fully welded and painted, the only thing I would change is to use a MK2 manual pedal box as it would make life MUCH more simple in that department. We didn't have one so the MK3 one got modified to suit, this does however allow us to use the MK3 tilt colum etc.
Much of the bracing was tied back to existing structure with brackets that were already there and just needed slight modification.
Last pic shows how the steering shaft came out through the firewall, neatly in the centre just needing a new boot.
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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on May 19, 2008, 08:55:27 PM
Send your CV to VW , they could do with talent like you have John
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 19, 2008, 08:57:20 PM
Nahhh don't want to work for them, would get tired of replacing parts  :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: uero-jet on May 19, 2008, 09:34:35 PM
Quote from: qta4 on May 19, 2008, 08:55:27 PM
Send your CV to VW , they could do with talent like you have John
no way.... why should they be making money from johns skills???
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 20, 2008, 08:29:19 PM
Saw it in the flesh today. Looks fantastic! Seating position is good, controls are all within reach. Now if only the damn parts can make it through customs!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 22, 2008, 03:34:09 PM
The balance of the parts from the good ole US of A turned up today, the new lightened flywheel went on the engine with a new rear main seal while we were in there.
The new flywheel is close to half the weight of the old one and looks to be realy nice quality.
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New pressure plate, sprung center disc and release bearing all fitted at the same time.
Gearbox back on and threw it back in the car, everything clears great so far and looks like it will work out good.
Still need to fabricate a new front mounting for the MK3 VF engine mount, with the block of wood there now the bonnet closes no worries and all the belts, AC pump have plenty of clearance.
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Having some weight in the front its starting to give us a good idea where the car is going to sit, it will still come down some so should be just about perfect.
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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: RS ZWEI on May 25, 2008, 09:26:25 AM
Nice work.

In that last pic the Jetta looks cool on the Mk3 16V alloys. On an older car they look a bit minilitish?

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Period_Correct_ on May 25, 2008, 11:22:38 AM
wicked project... will the engine be standard?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: GTI's on May 25, 2008, 11:49:38 AM
Quote from: NasTnaS on May 25, 2008, 11:22:38 AM
wicked project... will the engine be standard?
maybe you could maggafart it later?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Natesgti on May 25, 2008, 12:47:30 PM
Does a mk3 abf engine mount at the same places in a mk2 engine bay or do you have to fab up new things and use special hybrid mounts?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 25, 2008, 01:06:50 PM
Quote from: NasTnaS on May 25, 2008, 11:22:38 AM
wicked project... will the engine be standard?

Standard, yes. It was just too much money to make it anything else. Perhaps in time a supercharger might find it's way it, but I think the ABF will go very well in a Mk2 as it is. Short shift kit, suspension, brakes and lightweight flywheel will have to do me for now!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Period_Correct_ on May 25, 2008, 02:12:04 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 25, 2008, 01:06:50 PM
Standard, yes. It was just too much money to make it anything else. Perhaps in time a supercharger might find it's way it, but I think the ABF will go very well in a Mk2 as it is. Short shift kit, suspension, brakes and lightweight flywheel will have to do me for now!

the lighter flywheel kits make a huge difference, its gonna be real nice!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: GTI's on May 25, 2008, 05:59:48 PM
What driveshafts are being fitted? or is it a fabrication?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 25, 2008, 06:02:03 PM
Stock MK3 GTI, the whole subframe, rack, uprights, axles, struts etc are 16V GTI.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: GTI's on May 25, 2008, 06:05:12 PM
Then that is what i need for my 20v project.
going to get back into the build in a couple of weeks.  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: RS ZWEI on May 25, 2008, 06:14:41 PM
John, when do you and Dennis think this project will be finished?

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 25, 2008, 07:22:36 PM
Will be finished in a week or two.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 25, 2008, 09:34:20 PM
As John said earlier, he would have been able to crank this thing out faster if the parts had all been on the shop floor from day 1. I'm still waiting on some interior bits to show up.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 27, 2008, 05:20:46 PM
Monumental amount of stuff got done on the Jetta friday and today.
The main thing was to get the engine and gearbox placed and bolted down, driveshafts installed.
The front crossmember had to be modified to accept a MK3 uprated mount. Once I was happy with where that was sitting the engine could be bolted in place for the last time.
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We replaced the crank angle sensor while the whole front was off the car.
Next in line was the radiator and condenser, since we're using MK3 16V radiator I also used a MK3 condenser and fans. This meant that I had to cut most of the plastic MK3 slam panel away until I was left with the main part that holds the fans and shrouds the radiator. In the end the fans, radiator and condenser all became one unit bolted together to be fitted to the car.
With the radiator on a jack being held in a semi correct position we had a look how much modification the MK2 slam panel would need and with only minor clearancing it bolted on.
From there we made new mounts to hold the radiator in place and welded them to the MK2 slam panel, worked out great and fits a treat!

The MK3 power steering bottle looked like a better option than the manky looking MK2 one and with a simple bracket off the chassis rail it looks like its supposed to be there. Also the MK3 powersteer tube that runs along the front of the crossmember was re used and new brackets made to complete the powersteering.
The AC was another story, with realestate filling fast in the front of the car it was a bit of a challenge to fit this in but the hoses off the condenser pretty much left not much option on where it could go so even though a very tight fit its in there. I pitty the poor bugger if someone has to change it at some stage ;D
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So here we are with the engine bay almost done, brakes bled, clutch bled, powersteering done, AC done.
Bumper and grille back on now, just have to wire the headlights and take care of a couple vacuum lines and the whole front end is complete, although now Dennis is creating more work for me with a shield for the pod filter and a gas stay for the bonnet.
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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Filx on May 27, 2008, 05:32:38 PM
Very nice! Though being my old Jetta naturally I'm biased! Those Mk3 wheels are really growing on me. I like Nik's call that they look a little like Minilites. Maybe just run some lower profile tires on them for a little extra in gear punch and slightly less balloon tire look?  :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: rambo_005 on May 27, 2008, 06:32:54 PM
I think we have found the first/only car those factory Mk3 wheels suit :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: RS ZWEI on May 27, 2008, 08:23:15 PM
Quote from: rambo_005 on May 27, 2008, 06:32:54 PM
I think we have found the first/only car those factory Mk3 wheels suit :)

Quote from: Filx on May 27, 2008, 05:32:38 PM
Very nice! Though being my old Jetta naturally I'm biased! Those Mk3 wheels are really growing on me. I like Nik's call that they look a little like Minilites. Maybe just run some lower profile tires on them for a little extra in gear punch and slightly less balloon tire look?  :)

If it was mine Id keep them and run 195/50/15's.
What are your plans Dennis?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 27, 2008, 08:24:43 PM
They are mine!!!! LOL  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: GTI's on May 27, 2008, 08:26:46 PM
It's going to be a great Jetta man!
195/45/15's are nice too.
those wheels set it off well.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: RS ZWEI on May 27, 2008, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: vert1 on May 27, 2008, 08:24:43 PM
They are mine!!!! LOL  ;D


Keep and eye on them then John ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 27, 2008, 08:29:23 PM
Haven't told Dennis yet but I want to keep the Jetta for a week or so to do some "testing"  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: GTI's on May 27, 2008, 08:29:52 PM
I wonder how much more it'll weigh after it gets all the new fittings?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 27, 2008, 08:32:18 PM
Will be a lot less than a MK3 GTI, no elec windows, side intrusion bars, lighter shell, lighter doors etc. I reckon about 150kgs less total weight.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 27, 2008, 09:19:57 PM
I'll be running 16's on 40 series tires. We're just struggling with what the right solution is. I've purchased some rims but they are going to require some big spacers in order to look correct in the rear (45mm), and clear the calipers in the front (20mm). The Mk3 rims just don't do it for me, although there is the possibility they will be on the car for a bit, while I source some hub adapters/spacers and the cash to do it.

I'd also like to car to sit about 25mm lower than it is, but we're just not going to get there. The good news is, they won't stop making parts any time in the near future, so I can keep tweaking it until I get what I'm looking for.

I can't believe the front of the car is back together! It looks great. Only a few more steps to go now. Hennie is going to get stuck in next week and try to prep the car by installing a couple of stereo wires while it's apart. Lane down in Wellington is sending up some door cards, black carpet and black A&B pillar covers, and I'm supposed to be picking up the front seats and parcel tray from the upholsterer tomorrow. Will be great to be driving it to work in another 2 weeks!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 27, 2008, 09:25:55 PM
Will be great to be driving it to work in another 2 weeks!

Make that 3 weeks Dennis, I still need to "test" it for a week or so.... ::)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: RS ZWEI on May 27, 2008, 09:30:37 PM
Any chance we could see a side pic of the car with the 16V GTI rims on it?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 27, 2008, 09:32:18 PM
I would have thought you did all your testing when it was a Mk3? ;)

Since Noel was able to offer me a super special 'Vask discount' I'm now the proud owner of a video camera. As a result, I'm moving this project well into the 21st century. You can receive video updates throughout the breaking in of the car and provide remote support services.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 27, 2008, 09:34:55 PM
Quote from: Golfboy666GTI on May 27, 2008, 09:30:37 PM
Any chance we could see a side pic of the car with the 16V GTI rims on it?


Will do tomorow Nik.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on May 27, 2008, 09:36:35 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 27, 2008, 09:19:57 PM


I'd also like to car to sit about 25mm lower than it is,

I thought you wanted to drive this to work,,,,,,,,,, 25mm lower will be a gutter scraper,,,,you will be able to contract to Auck council to remove chewing gum from street ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 27, 2008, 09:42:51 PM
I think the front clip must weigh less than a Mk3, as the front doesn't sit anywhere near dangerously low territory at the moment. The full interior still needs to go back in and a few bits of stereo equipment. Once that's in, I'll work with John to figure out what the right stance for the car is and go from there.

My order of priority is handling, braking, power. Until it's weighted and I have an idea of what the supsension is doing, no real decision can be made. From an appearance perspective, 25mm lower than where it is now would be great.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: gti vr6 on May 28, 2008, 05:45:13 AM
Dude-man thats looking good, I like it...
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 29, 2008, 05:26:56 PM
Here's the pic you wanted Nik, the wheels would look cool a darker gray.
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More progress today with the wiring loom going back in, these MK3 looms are a disaster compared to the MK4 loom. With all the insulation falling off you're left with a sticky horrible mess of wires.
None the less it all has to go back in a car that it wasn't designed for = lots of fun and expletives!  :o
I installed the fuse box first and connected all the engine bay wiring to the fusebox followed by the ABS etc.
With most of it in the general location where its going to live a lot of the wiring was cable tied and cruitial areas wrapped in foam and cable tied.
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With the fuse box complete the metal support bar could be fitted back into place for the last time hiding all the wiring behind it.
The fuse box seems to sit nicely on the MK3 support bar and so is able to be tilted downwards to get to the back of the fuse box.
Some playing around was needed with the air ducts for the dash, a bit of molding with a heat gun and sticking on some foam tape got it all sealing quite nicely.
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When we cut the front edge off the dash we first peeled back the vinyl top covering and just cut the foam and the plastic dash backing so today I sprayed contact adhesive on the dash where the material had been peeled away and with the help of a heat gun stuck the vinyl back down wrapping the material
over the front edge of the dash.
This means that the vinyl shouldn't warp or start to peel off in hot weather.
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Final job for the day was to fit the dash back in, line up the air vents with the heaterbox and screw it in.
Have begun fitting some of the dash plastics and should be able to wrap this up tomorow.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Audi Life on May 29, 2008, 07:27:14 PM
I hate all that brittle spongy stuff that surrounds a some of thw wiring and i think that white air
conditioning vent... It's so annoying :laugh:
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 30, 2008, 04:42:20 PM
Finished installing the dash and all related parts, left the bottom off the dash for the stereo wiring to be run on tuesday.
All the wiring is 99% complete and tested, the MK2 loom was cut behind the back seat so to leave all the wiring to the lights etc in place. We just cross referenced the colours between MK2 & MK3 diagrams to join them up again. Most of the colours are the same for generic things like lights etc but its better to make sure anyway.
Just have to splice the MK2 interior light in along with the central lock pump.
The reverse switch decided it didn't want to work anymore so that was pulled apart to find dirty contacts were the culprit.
(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi290.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fll272%2Fvert111%2FJetta%2520GTI%2FDSCF0024-5.jpg&hash=794391a65097311a2661017195f00557c6a456b5)
Will start fabricating the exhaust from scratch on Tuesday, Dennis got a nice ABT rear box for it so we'll see how that looks on it. The tips are a bit far apart for my liking so I'll probably change that.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Period_Correct_ on May 30, 2008, 04:48:29 PM
looks mint!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: spooln on May 30, 2008, 05:30:47 PM
Great work!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 30, 2008, 08:38:38 PM
The pics just can't show how well integrated all the bits are. We're just a few litres of gas away from cranking it up! :o
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on May 30, 2008, 09:40:08 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 30, 2008, 08:38:38 PM
The pics just can't show how well integrated all the bits are. We're just a few litres of gas away from cranking it up! :o

And a cheque >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: gti vr6 on May 30, 2008, 09:54:46 PM
 :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 30, 2008, 10:08:18 PM
Quote from: qta4 on May 30, 2008, 09:40:08 PM
And a cheque >:D

Wooohoooo the rainbow at the end of the tunnel!  >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: old4130 on May 30, 2008, 10:11:23 PM
Amazing work again John.. !..
Its like Overhaulin, NZ style, with VW's only.. you are our Chip Foose !.. with great attention to detail

That ABF will be great in a 150kgs lighter car, & they scream a nice howl with a few hard kms on the motor

I also can't believe how good the GTI wheels look, I got rid of mine pretty quick, didn't like em at all

If the ABT rear box does not work out, I might be keen for it, sorting my exhaust is back on my list
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on May 30, 2008, 10:18:46 PM
Thanks for the comments guys.
Yeah those wheels have realy turned out to look pretty good. Still the wheels that Dennis has (Volk 5 spoke) also look cool, not sure about the white but that will get sorted out in due time.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 30, 2008, 10:23:08 PM
Quote from: qta4 on May 30, 2008, 09:40:08 PM
And a cheque >:D

Cars and women aren't that similar are they?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on May 31, 2008, 09:15:52 AM
Difference with a cheque is, use it once and it dissapears, women keep on coming back for more >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Imti on May 31, 2008, 11:13:07 AM
^^ :D

Awesome work, looking forward to seeing the complete job!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: ck13 on May 31, 2008, 06:31:39 PM
Those wheels look great! keep the updates coming as it nice to read about the project compared to writing code
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on May 31, 2008, 09:05:03 PM
I just don't see the attraction to those rims. To be fair, I'm not into the rims I bought either. White is just not my thing. Oh well, powder coating will come in time.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: ck13 on June 02, 2008, 10:55:18 AM
Personally I like them as they are a simple, clean factory rim, IMO with the big bumpers they kinda make the car look like some sort of face lift
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Jetta CLI on June 02, 2008, 11:42:12 AM
imo the wheels dont look cool
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 03, 2008, 08:55:26 PM
Completely finished the rear seats today so now we have 60/40 split rear seats from a MK3 installed, all the mounts came from a MK3 with the exeption of the top catches which I made. Works better than I could have hoped for realy, once the stereo wiring is run the interior can go back in.
Also had the displeasure of fitting the short shift kit, what a POS!
Beautifully made by B&M shifters but complete crap to install, the main shift rod was in 3 pieces however the instructions showed it in one piece  :-\ so that meant I first had to line the 3 pieces up and weld them together  :-[ ( no mention of this in the destructions by the way)
Other parts of it didn't fit either which meant more modifications, its in there now but unsure If I like the feel of it and cant say that its all that much shorter shifting.
Dissapointing to say the least, when I look at the shifter there's a way to make it shorter shifting by making 1 part only, 10x easier and have done this before on my old Corrado.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: kiwihigh on June 03, 2008, 08:59:42 PM
Quote from: vert1 on June 03, 2008, 08:55:26 PM
when I look at the shifter there's a way to make it shorter shifting by making 1 part only, 10x easier and have done this before on my old Corrado.

You dont happen to mean just shifting one hole was looking at mine and im sure it should reduce the shift by about 50%  ???
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 03, 2008, 09:04:20 PM
This has a cable shifter installed so it will be different to yours I think.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 05, 2008, 05:18:35 PM
In stalled the rear swaybar yesterday which was interesting, drilling through the rear beam was no easy task as the metal is quite thick and tough. The swaybar sits inside the rear beam and is bolted through it to stop the beam twisting so much. First one I've seen like this but then I haven't had much to do with MK2's.

The exhaust got made from scratch today which was 3/4 of the day gone but the results are awesome.
Exhaust tips sit just how I like them, hopefully Dennis is ok with it.
Quite a bit of time went into sitting the exhaust in the center of the cutout, the tailpipes had to be lengthened quite a bit as the muffler came off a Golf.
(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi290.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fll272%2Fvert111%2FJetta%2520GTI%2FDSCF0025-4.jpg&hash=4906c4e44cc2b32efcb08e8c2fafb1180db3c9ed)

Once the exhaust was done it meant the car could be started, so with some fuel in the tank the pump primed it fired into life without hesitation.
I left it idling outside to open the thermostat and purge the air out of the powersteering, once that was all ok and water topped off I took it for a thrash  8)- I mean drive down the road.
First impressions are that it goes pretty well, easy to tell that there's less weight there.
However upon getting back to the shop it cut out, would restart ok but then stop again. Have traced this to a faulty (brand new) crank sensor which will have to be replaced.
At the same time I realised that there's no fuel filter fitted, I have no idea how I missed that but anyway its no big deal to fit one.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 05, 2008, 06:39:16 PM
bugger....
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on June 05, 2008, 07:54:36 PM
Nigel - What rear springs are you running in the Jetta and were they Jetta specific? The rear on this hot-rod sag at the moment, while the front is a bit 'up in the air'. There's probably a 70mil difference in ride height.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: RS ZWEI on June 05, 2008, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on June 05, 2008, 07:54:36 PM
Nigel - What rear springs are you running in the Jetta and were they Jetta specific? The rear on this hot-rod sag at the moment, while the front is a bit 'up in the air'. There's probably a 70mil difference in ride height.

I think Nige has Jamex?

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 05, 2008, 08:06:27 PM
Quote from: Golfboy666GTI on June 05, 2008, 08:01:04 PM
I think Nige has Jamex?



yup, just cheap jamex... which means i have to drive it harder  >:D >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 05, 2008, 08:20:28 PM
No more sag in the rear end!
After the drive the front has settled and looks pretty even now.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on June 05, 2008, 09:26:07 PM
sounded like the springs i sent up were crap,pleased they settled
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 05, 2008, 09:29:40 PM
Never had any doubt that they would work out Noel, the other guy was beginning to panic I think  :D
All premature tho, ride is nice and if the rear is a bit lower thats real easy to fix.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on June 06, 2008, 07:41:36 AM
Quote from: qta4 on June 05, 2008, 09:26:07 PM
sounded like the springs i sent up were crap,pleased they settled

Not crap at all!! As John said, they were sitting high in the front, but without any driving around, they still had some amount of settling to do. The rear has consistently sit lower, which John has come up with a solution for earlier. We also weren't sure if the Jetta boot and full gas tank would make things worse, or if a fully weighted car and a bit of a drive around, would find the set-up leveling out. Just feeling out my options at this point; I like Eibach, so don't want to change them out.

No panic yet except over interior door cards!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: slayer00 on June 06, 2008, 06:17:26 PM
Ive got springs that came from a jetta in my golf and the back sits a little bit lower than the front. Give it a week to settle
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: BB on June 06, 2008, 06:31:10 PM
Your jetta will never be as good as my girls GTX 16v beast. Dats the mac daddy straight from the box yo hear me holms ;D
160kms up the bombays just cruising, foot to the floor god only knows.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Natesgti on June 06, 2008, 07:41:06 PM
since when have you turned gangster jeremy?  ;D ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: slayer00 on June 06, 2008, 08:14:41 PM
Wen he strtd tlkn like dis
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: gti vr6 on June 06, 2008, 08:16:23 PM
Quote from: Natesgti on June 06, 2008, 07:41:06 PM
since when have you turned gangster jeremy?  ;D ;D


don b a h8ta G dats how es rolln
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on June 06, 2008, 08:50:25 PM
Quote from: BB on June 06, 2008, 06:31:10 PM
Your jetta will never be as good as my girls GTX 16v beast. Dats the mac daddy straight from the box yo hear me holms ;D
160kms up the bombays just cruising, foot to the floor god only knows.

Was that a homemade chubby or a purchased pre-rolled chubby Jeremy? >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: BB on June 06, 2008, 08:52:24 PM
You see the white jetta, the one with the spoiler, and try and keep up, crazy.
No chubbys just veedubbees, pops :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on June 06, 2008, 08:55:33 PM
which white Jetta, Son?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 06, 2008, 09:03:15 PM
Quote from: qta4 on June 06, 2008, 08:55:33 PM
which white Jetta, Son?

definitely not NASTNS, its not gangsta enough....  :(
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on June 06, 2008, 09:07:43 PM
Heed the call, yo. I'z be hollerin soon ... front up or move out!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 06, 2008, 09:41:58 PM
Yo yo yo pimps dis whip gonna be pretty fly.
Wanna see a showdown for pinks!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 06, 2008, 10:17:28 PM
Quote from: vert1 on June 06, 2008, 09:41:58 PM
Yo yo yo pimps dis ride gonna be pretty fly.
Wanna see a showdown for pinks!

im keen! :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on June 06, 2008, 10:20:03 PM
Quote from: vert1 on June 06, 2008, 09:41:58 PM
Yo yo yo pimps dis whip gonna be pretty fly.
Wanna see a showdown for pinks!

Do you shop at the same place as BB. ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: BB on June 07, 2008, 08:21:11 AM
Quote from: qta4 on June 06, 2008, 08:55:33 PM
which white Jetta, Son?
Da white jetta my girl drives the one she did the big gouge down, as she had to swerve real fast to go past this truck she came so fast up on ::) ;D
Fixed that oil leak in da dizzy and shes pumping the ponys now gees. You wiggas gona loose, cause your ride not even ready, my bitches is rolling right now!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: GTI's on June 07, 2008, 09:47:58 AM
I'm sure if Heather saw you posting this up she'd slap you silly homie! ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Natesgti on June 07, 2008, 10:40:03 AM
HOLLAH!!!!!!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: gti vr6 on June 07, 2008, 01:15:58 PM
Quote from: BB on June 07, 2008, 08:21:11 AM
Da white jetta my girl drives the one she did the big gouge down, as she had to swerve real fast to go past this truck she came so fast up on ::) ;D
Fixed that oil leak in da dizzy and shes pumping the ponys now gees. You wiggas gona loose, cause your ride not even ready, my bitches is rolling right now!

;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 11, 2008, 05:30:56 PM
Not much progress here, fixed a coolant leak and changed out that bung crank sensor other than that we're waiting.............for parts................. ::) :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on June 12, 2008, 07:24:46 AM
I'm looking forward to seeing it go again. Just a few more things to arrive and we'll be away laughing. With a newer car, you could just walk into a shop and grab all the bits you want. Unfortunately, building the Jetta has required parts from all over NZ and the US. I can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: gti vr6 on June 12, 2008, 07:32:49 AM
Going to be an awesome car, had a look at it a couple of days ago and was impressed. Should go like a rocket with the ABF 2.0 16v. Another quality project .

Totally worthwhile ....
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on June 12, 2008, 08:52:20 AM
I'm already green over your LSD
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: qta4 on June 12, 2008, 08:57:49 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on June 12, 2008, 08:52:20 AM
I'm already green over your LSD

Is that a green chubby,Dennis >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: gti vr6 on June 12, 2008, 09:08:11 AM
cant be using that power just to spin the wheels on every corner....

I want a mk 2 now after seeing yours, :D your jetta that is not yer chubby   ;D

jeez Noel keep it out of the gutter  ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 12, 2008, 09:23:46 AM
Took it for a good 15km cane this morning, totaly impressed with it.
Will be nice once its got all the seats and an interior in it. Good throaty exhaust note and when you get on it there's a nice induction noise too!  :P
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: veedubman on June 12, 2008, 09:24:54 AM
Quote from: gti vr6 on June 12, 2008, 09:08:11 AM
keep it out of the gutter  ;D :D ;D

or was it out of the Fifty bag!

;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: gti vr6 on June 12, 2008, 04:56:03 PM
Quote from: Hitman on June 12, 2008, 09:24:54 AM
or was it out of the Fifty bag!

;)

i think you have your wires crossed ranton
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: uero-jet on June 12, 2008, 06:48:44 PM
john if you want to keep the induction looking oem and sounding good,drill about 100 litle holes on the front and right side of the airbox.looks totaly factory but barks real good.mine pops in real nice at about 4000rpm
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 12, 2008, 07:10:01 PM
We'll see what Angle thinks, if its too loud i'll fit a MK2 airbox and follow your suggestion.
I like the induction noise but then its not my car....
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on June 12, 2008, 08:27:03 PM
S/C whine, induction noise .... I'll take it all. More to the point, will I get "Why is this car so noisy"??
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 12, 2008, 08:37:05 PM
YES YOU WILL!! from your better half!  >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on June 12, 2008, 09:04:02 PM
I'll just be ready with the "It's quieter than the Anglia". Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I should coast down the drive the first time it comes home.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: GTI's on June 12, 2008, 10:09:46 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on June 12, 2008, 09:04:02 PM
I'll just be ready with the "It's quieter than the Anglia". Thanks for the heads up. Maybe I should coast down the drive the first time it comes home.
Maybe i could give you a tow in the mk1?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Angle on June 13, 2008, 05:59:31 PM
Quote from: GTI's on June 12, 2008, 10:09:46 PM
Maybe i could give you a tow in the mk1?

What are you trying to get me killed  ??? I got an ear bashing today because the Anglia isn't going.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: 80 Vert on June 13, 2008, 06:02:08 PM
Dear oh dear, the problems of married life! LOL  >:D
They just dont get it do they Dennis, I mean we are car guys! What fun is it if your car is going?  8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: Pristle on June 13, 2008, 06:15:03 PM
mmmm....and I got 4 dead Audis in my drive.....I've been accused of trying to get "indigenous".  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta
Post by: BB on June 13, 2008, 06:18:42 PM
I don't envy you Pristle.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 17, 2008, 09:24:42 AM
Things are coming along nicely. Still waiting on parts (mainly as a result of my inability to have foresight or complete orders in a timely fashion) to arrive, but I think everything has arrived that's needed to get the car functioning 100%. Still need to get the interior trim on the door cards done, but I've found some 5 1/2" door card speaker mounts, so at least a speaker can be installed up front.

John is going to coordinate the dents & dings guy to come out and do a quick tidy up, and have his up-holsterer pull the seat apart so he can lower the drivers seat for me. I'm picking she'll be ready next Thursday (my better half is in Oz next week, so that would be a great surprise - Surprise, you can't park in the garage again!!) John would be long done if all the fiddly bits were sitting in a pile when he started.

Heard it running yesterday, very nice sound. I may get a bit of pressure to tone it down a bit (so I don't wake the kids leaving in the morning) but we'll see.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on June 17, 2008, 06:09:12 PM
Either that or practice your running push starts.  ::)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 17, 2008, 07:58:49 PM
Maybe the right thing to do, is floor it the first time out of the garage and light the tires up. From then on, I'll be practicing my 'quiet' exit in the morning?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on June 17, 2008, 08:01:32 PM
Oh come on Dennis, you will only have 150 hp max and about 1000kg, how much smoke will you be able to make. >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 17, 2008, 08:04:24 PM
Quote from: qta4 on June 17, 2008, 08:01:32 PM
Oh come on Dennis, you will only have 150 hp max and about 1000kg, how much smoke will you be able to make. >:D

When you put it that way .... lots! It's like towing an anchor; she's bound to light up! Should I Armor-All my tires first?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on June 17, 2008, 08:05:56 PM
That will probably help lots,amourall will make car much faster.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 17, 2008, 08:19:24 PM
Quote from: qta4 on June 17, 2008, 08:01:32 PM
Oh come on Dennis, you will only have 150 hp max and about 1000kg, how much smoke will you be able to make. >:D

should be faster than the anglia  :o  :D  :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 17, 2008, 08:32:34 PM
Driving it as of today!
The wiring is 100% complete inc the interior light, central locking & remote lock unit.
Drilled a nice big fat hole in the roof for the bee sting, installed the rear parcel shelf, rear seats etc.
The new door handles are on, slightly modified the rear ones to work on the front doors for that de-locked look.
I didn't like the drivers seat being so high in the front so the newly made cover got pulled off today for some surgery to the frame, much better and lower now.
Also installed a fuel filter that I had overlooked before. Just waiting on the wheel adaptors to arrive and also carpet & interior trim to complete it.
Coming to think of it..........I feel like a drive now!!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Imti on June 17, 2008, 08:52:59 PM
Awesome! Looking forward to seeing the finished product.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 17, 2008, 10:13:07 PM
Did a good 50km drive in it tonight, goes a treat!
The exhaust is well loud enough to wake the kids, get stuck into it and its induction noise central.
In all seriousness its pretty damn good considering there's no interior to speak of.
Bring on more parts, parts & parts..........
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on June 17, 2008, 10:17:41 PM
That is the same intake as on my Bro's Mk3 GTI 16V... makes it sound awesome!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: slayer00 on June 17, 2008, 11:28:26 PM
You should hear my vtec integra, it has a small piece of intake pipe left and no filter :P
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Aidan on June 17, 2008, 11:28:47 PM
Quote from: rambo_005 on June 17, 2008, 10:17:41 PM
That is the same intake as on my Bro's Mk3 GTI 16V... makes it sound awesome!

So what intake is running on this, I skimmed the pages and didn't see to much mention of a brand.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on June 18, 2008, 07:27:04 AM
Quote from: Aidan on June 17, 2008, 11:28:47 PM
So what intake is running on this, I skimmed the pages and didn't see to much mention of a brand.

Ramair;
(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi290.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fll272%2Fvert111%2FDSCF0025-3.jpg&hash=a0a578c8b2ecb6e4a4db985b1dc13b2433f9baa9)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 18, 2008, 08:08:14 AM
Quote from: NasTnaS on June 17, 2008, 08:19:24 PM
should be faster than the anglia  :o  :D  :)

Nothing is faster than the Anglia.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: uero-jet on June 18, 2008, 06:34:36 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on June 18, 2008, 08:08:14 AM
Nothing is faster than the Anglia.
xcept noel aye dennis  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 18, 2008, 10:32:14 PM
I tried early on to hold him back with my smoke screen. :-\
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 18, 2008, 10:39:23 PM
Hub adaptors came in today and they look awesome on the car. Well, they make the wheels looks awesome on the car. Downside? Rolling the fenders. But the stance is WIDER than this  ;D ;D ;D ;D:

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi204.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb31%2FDicardo4%2FGreen%2520GTI%2F1cbb4c0c1.jpg&hash=54271f81473b74164ddb8ac4c61d6767382c0ce2)

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on June 19, 2008, 06:36:43 AM
The sound proofing that Brendon is putting in his mk 2 would work a treat on your floors Dennis.... You should check it out...

I saw some bright orange beast parked up at Dubshack on my way past yesterday, were you rolling in the box?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 19, 2008, 09:14:46 AM
Yes I am. The green GTI is gone, and I'm racing everywhere these days. The Jetta is pretty well sorted on the inside. It sounds like I need external sound-proofing!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 19, 2008, 06:10:25 PM
As mentioned earlier the wheel adaptors have come, 22mm in front and 45mm in the rear. The guy did a great job, all hubcentric machined bolt on adaptors with studs pressed in from behind.
I just machined a few mm off here and there to get the rims sitting just where Anglebox wanted them.
This did mean however that the rear arch trim was virtually sitting ON the tyre!!  >:D,
So today some major surgery took place on the arch trims and fender wells, nothing that a BIG hammer doesn't fix.
I was going to try the ole baseball bat trick but decided against that  ;)
Front and rear have been clearanced substantially.
Couple of little other bits and pieces also got finished.
My paintless dent guy came over and took about 15 dings out of the body which has tidied it up very nicely.
Lastly some piccy's, one tough looking Jetta!
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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 19, 2008, 06:31:54 PM
awesome, what wheels are they?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 19, 2008, 06:37:26 PM
Volk - Rays
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: nacnud on June 19, 2008, 07:28:44 PM
Looking really good.  Wicked stance!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on June 19, 2008, 07:32:08 PM
Looking really nice! The wheels suit it... will they stay white?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on June 19, 2008, 07:36:11 PM
killer stance and well wicked all round !!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: phil on June 19, 2008, 08:07:17 PM
I should let you loose on my guards John  ;D

I'm running custom adaptors as well, and the back rubs quite badly sometimes. For example I can't take any passengers in the back seat, but I think my car is a fair bit lower than Dennis's as well.

Put it on the list of things to do once the wedding and honeymoons been paid off  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on June 19, 2008, 08:23:05 PM
Nice lookin Jetta yo'll!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: robh on June 19, 2008, 08:29:04 PM
awesome job guys, well done John and Dennis!  nice to see so many water cooled dubs getting done in little old NZ :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 19, 2008, 08:42:18 PM
Quote from: phil on June 19, 2008, 08:07:17 PM
I should let you loose on my guards John  ;D

I'm running custom adaptors as well, and the back rubs quite badly sometimes. For example I can't take any passengers in the back seat, but I think my car is a fair bit lower than Dennis's as well.

Put it on the list of things to do once the wedding and honeymoons been paid off  :-\ :-\

I bet your wheels dont poke out as far as Angle's though!  ;D
No sweat Phil, can fix easy.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 19, 2008, 08:44:29 PM
Quote from: robh on June 19, 2008, 08:29:04 PM
awesome job guys, well done John and Dennis!  nice to see so many water cooled dubs getting done in little old NZ :)

Cheers Rob, well pleased with the result. Dennis has given me a lot of free range to do as I please which is pretty cool.
There's a lot of H20 VW's being done, its great!  8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 19, 2008, 09:03:58 PM
those wheels are wicked! the car looks real nice.... now to get some debadged bits.....
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 19, 2008, 09:13:45 PM
Yeah, not sure what his plans are here. I'd like to see the 16V badges on the doors and the badges dissapear on the back along with a nice spoiler on the bootlid.
Still money needs to be spent on new door cards first....... and then.....
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 19, 2008, 09:16:44 PM
whats wrong with his door cards? You should  buy my entire leather interior :) problem is, i need doorcards to replace mine, and its a bitch to find door cards for electric windows in the rear...
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 19, 2008, 09:18:56 PM
Quote from: NasTnaS on June 19, 2008, 09:16:44 PM
whats wrong with his door cards? You should  buy my entire leather interior :) problem is, i need doorcards to replace mine, and its a bitch to find door cards for electric windows in the rear...


Ummmm his door cards are....... blue = not cool. :D
Plus Angle is like me, fussy fussy.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 19, 2008, 09:25:53 PM
Quote from: vert1 on June 19, 2008, 09:18:56 PM

Ummmm his door cards are....... blue = not cool. :D
Plus Angle is like me, fussy fussy.

yea, he is quite fusssy.... hey Dennis... but its good, cause his cars are really neat!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: uero-jet on June 19, 2008, 09:54:24 PM
theres a jetta on tm with full leathers.offer the guy a real good price for the car.remove leathers and flick it off quik...
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 19, 2008, 10:27:38 PM
The cards will match the interior and they'll be ready in 2 - 3 weeks. I've got some interim cards coming, which is good. The wheels will stay white until more cash arrives or I stop noticing their white, whichever comes first. Ideally they would be powdercoated a grey of some sort.

The exterior details will be on hold for a fair bit of time. Whatever can't be done by sweat or graft will sit in the too hard basket for while.

Luckily John and I see things pretty much the same when it comes to cars. We both think the details need to be right, and the whole reason this is a project and not a Mk3 GTI is that I was confident John could pull of a job in a way that aligned with the way I would do it myself. All you have to do is line up the Anglia and the Jetta and the detail work is the same, only one's done by me, and the other John. Also, machining hub adapters down by 2.5mm isn't something I would tackle in my own yard, much less a few other details.

I needed to be able to trust that I could leave $1,000's of dollars of parts and bits in someone's hands, and I was going to get exactly what I wanted back. It's worked and I'm stoked! Besides, my marriage wouldn't support another car being torn apart in my garage. My wife has been fantastically supportive of my car habit, so I needed to take care of her on this one.

John will be taking her down to Noels this weekend possibly  ???, to be her shakedown run, before I put my hands on her next week. Thanks for all the comments and support by almost everyone here. It's been cool to watch a project go together, without having the stress of it on me. And if it's too loud I can just shake my head and say "#*%#ing John!" ;D :D ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Imti on June 20, 2008, 06:43:52 AM
That looks phat! Awesome job guys!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Platinum on June 20, 2008, 07:47:53 AM
Quote from: GTI's on June 19, 2008, 08:23:05 PM
Nice lookin Jetta yo'll!

Don't you mean funny expensive looking Vento ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on June 20, 2008, 07:49:47 AM
Quote from: Platinum VW Spares on June 20, 2008, 07:47:53 AM
Don't you mean funny expensive looking Vento ;D

Aren't you making something you could just buy... Beetle RSI? :P
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: dubstar on June 20, 2008, 07:53:14 AM
Looks good guys.  Could be lower though :P
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Platinum on June 20, 2008, 07:56:07 AM
Quote from: rambo_005 on June 20, 2008, 07:49:47 AM
Aren't you making something you could just buy... Beetle RSI? :P

Aren't you VR6 ;D :angel: Seriously though, this car is an expensive Vento!!!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: spooln on June 20, 2008, 08:04:10 AM
Did Air Cond remain or did it get ditched in the quest for more pace?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on June 20, 2008, 08:08:52 AM
Quote from: Platinum VW Spares on June 20, 2008, 07:47:53 AM
Don't you mean funny expensive looking Vento ;D


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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: RS ZWEI on June 20, 2008, 08:24:36 AM
Quote from: Platinum VW Spares on June 20, 2008, 07:56:07 AM
Aren't you VR6 ;D :angel: Seriously though, this car is an expensive Vento!!!

Didn't know they put ABF's in Ventos Nigel.

Dennis commissioned this car, its his baby.
Telling someone there project is an expensive Vento is a bit of a negative comment IMO.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 20, 2008, 08:28:42 AM
Quote from: spooln on June 20, 2008, 08:04:10 AM
Did Air Cond remain or did it get ditched in the quest for more pace?
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Requirement was to have AC so the full Mk3 system is there, just have to get it gassed.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 20, 2008, 08:40:50 AM
Platinum, stay off the thread if you're just going to stir. I've ignored your previous posts, if you can't control yourself, I request that you do the same, and ignore this post.

The full Mk3 kit went into it. ABS, A/C, Airbags, Pre-tensioners, everything. For those of you wondering about cost, it has cost less than a clean Mk3 GTI, plus all the aftermarket bits.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on June 20, 2008, 08:46:32 AM
Nobody was wondering about cost Dennis. Just as long as your having fun ;)
Somebody got up on the wrong side of bed maybe :P
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: chis on June 20, 2008, 09:15:46 AM
i reckon its hot- its about the project huh!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: spooln on June 20, 2008, 03:14:27 PM
I reckon its hot as well.  Very cool project, volks suit the car but. A little but undecided about the white on silver, but cant really think what color I would paint the volks as a change so I think its a look that will grow on you I think. Nice work guys.

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 20, 2008, 03:17:39 PM
I'm not digging the white at all, but will have a go at removing the stickers, and then when tires wear out ( I doubt I'll be able to get to it sooner) I'll look at a matte/low sheen grey of some sort to powder coat them to. They work with the little lip, but John might say the little lip was a huge PITA!  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: bsting on June 20, 2008, 05:56:27 PM
Nice one  :) Saw it at the weekend,really like it!

1 of 1's are cool period
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on June 20, 2008, 07:23:02 PM
I've been working on the west side and dropping in on it every chance I get.... Its hot

As far as wheel colour/color on a silver car.... darker shades of grey and silver work well & gun metal or graphite would be my pick





Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on June 20, 2008, 10:06:08 PM
I reckon a bright satin metallic silver would look good on those rims.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on June 21, 2008, 08:52:02 AM
Looks really nice Dennis.
Bring it over for a perv when it's out and about.
I bet your looking forward to driving to work without climbing through a cage in a suit  :)
We'd better line it up with the 16v and the mega jetta to see what this mighty ABF can do  >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: old4130 on June 21, 2008, 09:20:40 AM
I love it..  8)

Cool Jetta, & yea unique creations are very cool...
Nice to see the ABF being used, I love the ABF 16v howl  >:D
Well done to John again.. another very cool project

Quote from: gti vr6 on June 20, 2008, 07:23:02 PM
As far as wheel colour/color on a silver car.... darker shades of grey and silver work well & gun metal or graphite would be my pick

x 2 on the wheels

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 21, 2008, 11:48:11 AM
Quote from: GTI's on June 21, 2008, 08:52:02 AM
Looks really nice Dennis.
Bring it over for a perv when it's out and about.
I bet your looking forward to driving to work without climbing through a cage in a suit  :)
We'd better line it up with the 16v and the mega jetta to see what this mighty ABF can do  >:D

Sounds perfect. The next step with the wheels (John's idea) is to machine a ring that can be pressed into the center hole that will accept a VW center cap. I was thinking of machining the entire cap, but John reckon'd the seperate 'adapter ring' would work best. Watch this space.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 21, 2008, 04:18:13 PM
Quote from: phil on June 19, 2008, 08:07:17 PM
I'm running custom adaptors as well, and the back rubs quite badly sometimes. For example I can't take any passengers in the back seat, but I think my car is a fair bit lower than Dennis's as well.

There's a 2 finger gap from the top of the tire to the outside edge of the guard. The poke is significant, which is the main rubbing issue. If I'd gone with a narrower profile tire, some of that would have gone away, but John has spent more than a little time on it.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on June 22, 2008, 03:07:54 PM
That poke sure is a rubbing issue.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 22, 2008, 03:29:37 PM
Quote from: BB on June 22, 2008, 03:07:54 PM
That poke sure is a rubbing issue.
LOL  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on June 22, 2008, 05:23:56 PM
Quote from: BB on June 22, 2008, 03:07:54 PM
That poke sure is a rubbing issue.

Even for us old guys ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 23, 2008, 08:21:39 PM
Since the car is sitting idle for a bit while I wait on interior bits to make their way up country, we decided to pull the intake manifold and cam cover in order to replace the cam timing chain. As an aside, the ugly ass cam cover and intake manifold will get powder coated black ;D!! I'm of two minds about it at the moment (since it's not free), but it will certainly clean up the engine bay, and justify the 20 odd dollars spent on a new coolant reservoir.

Hopefully, the carpet and plastic will show up by Thursday when I drop back off the powder coated bits, and John's got enough time to wrap it up so I can swing by on Saturday. Getting close now.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 23, 2008, 08:28:16 PM
You know what your problem is Angle, you're fussy like me!!  >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 24, 2008, 10:09:01 PM
Typical  >:( Dropped off the bits tonight and my mate let me know he's been down a man for the week, so can't the intake and valve cover back to me until Thursday. On the upside, he's going to powder-coat it in black and do the details in silver. 98.8% there and a few frustrations to go. Saw the car today, and she looks great. I think I'm going to have to eat my words Noel. The thing sits LOW. Even though John has raised the rear, the rear wheel sits inside the fender :o.

Beautiful job on the alignment. The front looks mint. Now to find some wheel centercaps.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 24, 2008, 10:12:54 PM
im liking the wheels just as they are... looks HOT!!!!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 24, 2008, 10:15:45 PM
AAAHHHHHHHHHHGGGHHHHHH, more waiting for parts!!!!  ;D
(i'm very impatient aren't I?)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 24, 2008, 10:19:08 PM
Quote from: vert1 on June 24, 2008, 10:15:45 PM
AAAHHHHHHHHHHGGGHHHHHH, more waiting for parts!!!!  ;D
(i'm very impatient aren't I?)

Waiting for parts fills in the blank bits  :P. It's costing me nothing now, so I can't complain too loudly. I'll see him tomorrow night and put the screws on again to make sure it's ready.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 24, 2008, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: NasTnaS on June 24, 2008, 10:12:54 PM
im liking the wheels just as they are... looks HOT!!!!

I can't get around the big hole in the middle. Not sure if I picked the right lug nuts either, but they looked kinda cool off the wheel.  ::)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 24, 2008, 10:39:23 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on June 24, 2008, 10:19:08 PM
Waiting for parts fills in the blank bits  :P. It's costing me nothing now, so I can't complain too loudly. I'll see him tomorrow night and put the screws on again to make sure it's ready.

Ohh ok, free is cool  :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on June 25, 2008, 06:01:22 AM
Quote from: vert1 on June 24, 2008, 10:15:45 PM
AAAHHHHHHHHHHGGGHHHHHH, more waiting for parts!!!!  ;D
(i'm very impatient aren't I?)

only a LITTLE  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 27, 2008, 08:08:53 AM
Again, nothing good happens without a bit of bad. Good news - Carpet & Interior bits showed up today  ;D ;D Bad news is the intake manifold and cam cover is still at the shop  :(.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on June 28, 2008, 08:44:49 AM
you know you can convert a mk3 seat base to work?
And you can swap left for right by swapping the feet from side to side.
and dosey doh
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 28, 2008, 10:26:26 AM
Quote from: GTI's on June 28, 2008, 08:44:49 AM
you know you can convert a mk3 seat base to work?
And you can swap left for right by swapping the feet from side to side.
and dosey doh

Yeah, it's just that we had the Mk2 bases and no work was required. John has modified the base to suit, but it's a bit of a bummer as we started out with all the right bits. I'll pick up the valve cover & manifold today. Should look awesome!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 28, 2008, 12:22:58 PM
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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Audi Life on June 28, 2008, 12:23:41 PM
Ooh la laa ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 28, 2008, 05:32:43 PM
Your $25 new overflow tank is now fully justified!
Looks great BTW  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: AndyGti on June 28, 2008, 05:43:03 PM
how much and where!!!! i wanna get mine painted!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 28, 2008, 06:40:50 PM
Mine was done at mate's rates, but RRP is $140+gst. Tim - Pro-Coats 09-274-5459. He's done a bit of work for me (powder and performance coatings) and it's all come out beautifully. All of your parts come back bubble wrapped and the quality of work is great. Feel free to use my name.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: AndyGti on June 28, 2008, 08:39:39 PM
cheers :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: old4130 on June 28, 2008, 09:40:29 PM
Cheers for the powdercoater
I need some BMX frames I am restoring powdercoated, will give them a call
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on June 29, 2008, 08:38:10 AM
Wow, nice work.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on June 29, 2008, 11:05:27 AM
looking good dennis.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 29, 2008, 12:20:11 PM
Unfortunately, pretty parts don't add horsepower or fuel efficiency. I had to control myself not to pick up the cam's and have them re-ground as well. I would have just picked up the spec's off the net, and Franklin Cams would have had them done in a day. Unfortunately, not free, so I kept away. I'm still thinking about it though. Hopefully John will be by shortly to talk me down.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on June 29, 2008, 01:26:45 PM
Don't dooooo iiiiiiitttttttt, think of your budget and your better half!!  >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on June 29, 2008, 01:46:12 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on June 29, 2008, 12:20:11 PM
Unfortunately, pretty parts don't add horsepower or fuel efficiency. I had to control myself not to pick up the cam's and have them re-ground as well. I would have just picked up the spec's off the net, and Franklin Cams would have had them done in a day. Unfortunately, not free, so I kept away. I'm still thinking about it though. Hopefully John will be by shortly to talk me down.

How much do they want to grind a cam?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Natesgti on June 29, 2008, 02:54:23 PM
yeah, im dam interested to see how much money itd be to regrind a set of 16v cams..

Is there any advantage or disadvantage to buying a set of cams from a u.s website or simply having them reground?

hey dennis, whatever happened to the golf you were selling? You sold it and then the next week some dude was trying to sell it again! wtf?  :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 29, 2008, 06:53:12 PM
Don't know if there is a premium to grind a VW cam (using your 'donor' cam) but if it's the same as a Ford cam you'd be looking at $100 - $120 a cam. That's why I'm so tempted. You just need to provide Adrian with the spec's you're looking for. He can grind them (I talked him about an 8v cam earlier). Great guy, did a sweet job on the Anglia cam.

Don't know the story behind the re-sale on the GTI. Guy paid cash, no test drive, never came by to pick up the parts that went with the sale, didn't call, and a week or two later, had it on Trademe.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 29, 2008, 06:58:40 PM
Quote from: Natesgti on June 29, 2008, 02:54:23 PM
Is there any advantage or disadvantage to buying a set of cams from a u.s website or simply having them reground?

Noel might be able to provide some insight, but when you grind a cam, you profile the cam potentially differently than if you were to use a billet cam. Some believe this compromises the performance. Adrian does work internationally, and when given the choice between re-grinding my cam, and charging me for a billet, he said the re-grind would be sweet.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on June 29, 2008, 07:50:28 PM
Pleased you didn't do the cam grind Dennis, if you require a CAM,reprofile, then get a cam from new profile.

Also , does Suzzanah need to drive car?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on June 29, 2008, 10:31:26 PM
Only when I've got the truck. She wouldn't know the difference; I wouldn't be looking for anything that agressive.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on June 29, 2008, 10:44:43 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on June 29, 2008, 10:31:26 PM
Only when I've got the truck. She wouldn't know the difference; I wouldn't be looking for anything that agressive.
Just a hidden NOS switch eh Dennis
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on July 01, 2008, 04:42:06 PM
The final pieces have arrived so the whole interior went back in today, never had so much hassle with carpet before- fighting every step of the way.
Suppose its the extra sound deadening on the floor and different dash, pedals etc that have a lot to do with it.
Quite a few of the trim clips were broken or missing so some improvising was called for, all the interior trim is black now so it all matches nicely.
The MK3 center console also fits like a glove along with the handbrake console, it just needs a damn good clean now Dennis!  8)
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Seats are also in now, just have to trim the A pillar parts around the dash, install the intake on the engine and a couple of little things to finish.
The new doorcards are also going to be ready friday so they won't take long to install, then Angle can have it back.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on July 01, 2008, 05:46:13 PM
you're pretty talented John. do you need an Apprentice?  :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on July 01, 2008, 08:15:53 PM
Has come up well hasn't it, an apprentice huh?  8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: AndyGti on July 01, 2008, 08:58:07 PM
once you get the door cards post up a pic and  a ph number of where to get them :p im putting my passat dash into my golf and will need new cards
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 01, 2008, 09:22:47 PM
Quote from: andyball1 on July 01, 2008, 08:58:07 PM
once you get the door cards post up a pic and  a ph number of where to get them :p im putting my passat dash into my golf and will need new cards

They're the original Jetta cards which are being re-upholstered to match the interior. I do have a set of clean cards for a Mk2 - Black vinyl on top w/ grey cloth.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: AndyGti on July 02, 2008, 04:53:44 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on July 01, 2008, 09:22:47 PM
They're the original Jetta cards which are being re-upholstered to match the interior. I do have a set of clean cards for a Mk2 - Black vinyl on top w/ grey cloth.
to fit a 2 dr?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on July 02, 2008, 05:03:48 PM
Motor is back together and running again. Much improved with a new timing chain, also did the dizzy seal, new rocker cover gasket and camshaft seal.
The old chain had obviously streched quite a bit allowing timing movement between the cams, the idle is much better and also sounds a lot quieter.
Dennis's newly powdercoated intake and rocker cover tidy the engine up nicely.
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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on July 02, 2008, 05:49:28 PM
Looking good.  That intake manifold is fairly similar looking to the 9A/KR two piece one.  Do you think it would fit a KR head?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 02, 2008, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: andyball1 on July 02, 2008, 04:53:44 PM
to fit a 2 dr?

No - they're for a 4 door. I picked them up to use in case my 'new' cards weren't ready.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 02, 2008, 06:20:23 PM
Quote from: typ53 on July 02, 2008, 05:49:28 PM
Looking good.  That intake manifold is fairly similar looking to the 9A/KR two piece one.  Do you think it would fit a KR head?

Ask Brendon. I think he's got one in his shed - from memory they do fit, but it's been awhile since I read the threads in Vortex.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on July 02, 2008, 08:19:06 PM
Kr Intake has injectors in it =Kjet. ABF has a rail and Elec inj.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on July 02, 2008, 08:27:41 PM
are there any differences in the inlet manifold gasket? that is the question...
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on July 02, 2008, 08:30:00 PM
the angle they bolt to the head is different.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on July 02, 2008, 09:21:03 PM
(sorry to temporarily hi-jack the thread here)
Is the angle different enough that it couldn't be shaved to fit? The manifold to head gaskets are the same part number as far as I can see: 037129717F

Could have real potential for a nice factory looking EFi conversion.

Have you got a manifold and fuel rail for an ABF in your shed GTi's?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on July 02, 2008, 09:31:56 PM
Quote from: typ53 on July 02, 2008, 09:21:03 PM
(sorry to temporarily hi-jack the thread here)
Is the angle different enough that it couldn't be shaved to fit? The manifold to head gaskets are the same part number as far as I can see: 037129717F

Could have real potential for a nice factory looking EFi conversion.

Have you got a manifold and fuel rail for an ABF in your shed GTi's?

No mate.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on July 02, 2008, 09:40:55 PM
Good old Digifant on the ABFs ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on July 02, 2008, 09:42:33 PM
Quote from: rambo_005 on July 02, 2008, 09:40:55 PM
Good old Digifant on the ABFs ;)

lol, are you ever going to give up on the DIGI vs K-Jet....  :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on July 02, 2008, 09:54:16 PM
Quote from: NasTnaS on July 02, 2008, 09:42:33 PM
lol, are you ever going to give up on the DIGI vs K-Jet....  :)

Nope... but I am changing from Digifant to Motronic now :-\
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on July 02, 2008, 10:06:17 PM
Quote from: rambo_005 on July 02, 2008, 09:54:16 PM
Nope... but I am changing from Digifant to Motronic now :-\

which is a huge step up mate.... Motronic would easily be the 2nd best ECU out there...
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 03, 2008, 05:30:52 PM
Can someone post up a pic of a standard ABF engine in the bay? I want to see what the little plastic cover looks like directly in front of the intake.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on July 03, 2008, 06:02:21 PM
check the inters 08 thread there is an  ABF mk1
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on July 03, 2008, 06:09:35 PM
This will be the same - it's an Ibiza Cupra with an ADL engine (basically an EFi version of the 1.8l 16v) which shares quite a few external bits with the ABF including the intake manifold and fuel rail etc.  Kinda like the PL is to the 9A.

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 04, 2008, 05:42:54 PM
Thanks for the pics. Went to see Ross at Autosport Upholstery today and picked up my 'new' door cards. They look absolutely amazing :o :o!

He also rebuilt my integrated shift lever cover / shift boot. Again, looks fantastic. I was worried about him being able to do it as the shift boot covers the knob and so goes from a large 'skirt' to a small waist around the bottom of the shift knob, and then goes up and over the large upper portion of the knob and then gets smashed under the 5 speed cap. It came out perfect and the door cards look factory and they match with the interior.

I'm over the moon about the whole thing. Fingers crossed we manage to get it all on tomorrow and the interior gets cleaned up enough for a couple of good photos. ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: spooln on July 04, 2008, 06:22:35 PM
Thanks for the tip on this chap. I dropped my kamai seats off to him this week.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on July 04, 2008, 07:56:16 PM
Sounds great!   make sure you bring it by for a looksie.  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 05, 2008, 08:31:30 PM
Quote from: GTI's on July 04, 2008, 07:56:16 PM
Sounds great!   make sure you bring it by for a looksie.  ;)

Will do. Took it for a spin today. First impressions are the car is very tight, light on it's feet, with an extremely light clutch and very rev friendly engine.

We spent some time working on the door membrane and fitting door cards. The new cards look absolutely fantastic. I was really concerned as to whether or not they were worth the effort and they certainly are. I'm really stoked and having the interior coordinated has really 'finished' the car. Camera battery was dead, so no pictures  >:(
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Natesgti on July 06, 2008, 10:47:38 AM
make your own battery, potato and copper! I need piiiictuuuuressss
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: AndyGti on July 06, 2008, 11:38:29 AM
Quote from: Natesgti on July 06, 2008, 10:47:38 AM
make your own battery, potato and copper! I need piiiictuuuuressss

coke also works ever so slightly (good old myth busters)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Filx on July 06, 2008, 01:19:01 PM
Sounds fresh too - so I'd be requesting video as well  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Imti on July 07, 2008, 12:32:02 PM
Quote from: Natesgti on July 06, 2008, 10:47:38 AM
I need piiiictuuuuressss

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 08, 2008, 04:08:43 PM
If you know of a big-bumper in pick-a-part please let me know. Looking for jack flaps!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on July 08, 2008, 04:17:26 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on July 08, 2008, 04:08:43 PM
Looking for jack flaps!

Does Suzzanah know you ar looking for these ?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Pristle on July 08, 2008, 05:02:31 PM
he said jack.....not p!ss
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on July 08, 2008, 06:51:47 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on July 08, 2008, 06:54:46 PM
Photos of door cards please ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on July 08, 2008, 08:23:17 PM
They look realy cool!  ;D
Does that help?  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 08, 2008, 08:29:47 PM
Haven't gotten back to John's yet to take the pics. Will do shortly - they are the bomb ;D :-[ :angel:!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 12, 2008, 10:30:48 AM
Drove her home last night! Can't wait to drive when it's not raining, as it seems to have an amazing amount of grip and a flat chassis. Perhaps that widened track has made a big difference. Unfortunately the muffler is too loud (it sounds great over 4000rpm) but not my thing at 3000. Aside from that, I'm over the moon, and off for a drive in a few minutes. A few hours cleaning and detailing is ahead of me, along with a few bits and bobs to finish off (stereo, trunk sound deadening, wheel caps, etc.). Great job John!  8)

For those who think the car sits too high (Dubstar) here's a shot of the rear tire/fender relationship:

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And for the near finished product:

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Interior Shots (love the new shift knob from Autosport):

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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: spooln on July 12, 2008, 11:17:51 AM
Nice one guys. Interior looks like it was manufactured that way. Those wheels are growing on me.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Natesgti on July 12, 2008, 11:20:16 AM
Hey dennis, the car looks great! I love the door cards and was thinking of getting something similiar done on mine. Whereabouts did you get them done? Could you do me a absolutely huge favour and take a picture of where you put the mk3 mounts for the back seats? I just bought some vr6 leathers and i am installing them today.. Thanks man!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on July 12, 2008, 12:48:26 PM
thats really nice mate.... an awesome daily driver...
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Pristle on July 12, 2008, 01:33:14 PM
Very tidy. I'd want a quieter exhaust to go with the sleeper looks too.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 12, 2008, 01:43:12 PM
Quote from: Natesgti on July 12, 2008, 11:20:16 AM
Hey dennis, the car looks great! I love the door cards and was thinking of getting something similiar done on mine. Whereabouts did you get them done? Could you do me a absolutely huge favour and take a picture of where you put the mk3 mounts for the back seats? I just bought some vr6 leathers and i am installing them today.. Thanks man!

Here ya go:

From the trunk:
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From above, photographed from the top of the passenger side door:
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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 12, 2008, 02:25:04 PM
Is anyone else with an ABF running a L/W flywheel?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on July 12, 2008, 05:51:37 PM
Great to hear, glad youre happy. Still a few finishing bits for you to tinker away on.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on July 12, 2008, 06:32:31 PM
Another project all cool .

Well done Anglebox and John
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on July 12, 2008, 06:33:39 PM
Very nicely done - good job :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 12, 2008, 07:09:03 PM
Quote from: vert1 on July 12, 2008, 05:51:37 PM
Great to hear, glad youre happy. Still a few finishing bits for you to tinker away on.

It's been brilliant. Unbelievably well composed on the road. Those springs have worked a treat Noel  ;). I've gotten more accustomed to the clutch feel (which is very lightweight and excellent for traffic), and the only niggle at the moment is that it loves to hold the revs, which I'm assumming is due to a L/W flywheel with an ECU map that keeps the RPM up longer?

I still can't believe how well the package has gone together. Nothing looks out of place on the car and it's modern with a retro feel. Really digging it. Should spend a bit more time behind the wheel tomorrow.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on July 12, 2008, 08:07:22 PM
Dennis are you running airbags  :-\
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 12, 2008, 10:09:15 PM
Absolutely; along with seatbelt pre-tensioners (and seatbelts from the MkIII), so the entire 'system' is transferred over. Shock sensor is mounted in the same location as well.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on July 12, 2008, 10:11:11 PM
Did you have to certify the bags?
Looks good Dennis you gotta be happy with that one!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 12, 2008, 10:14:25 PM
Quote from: GTI's on July 12, 2008, 10:11:11 PM
Did you have to certify the bags?
Looks good Dennis you gotta be happy with that one!

I've got a few things on the go in the morning, and I need to touch base with Hennie as well, but I was planning on dropping by the shed tomorrow if you were going to be in? Everything is 'certified' 100% awesome. PM me for details.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 14, 2008, 05:48:02 PM
Pic whoring  ;D (any tips on how to take a better shot appreciated  :P ) after putting tire black on all moulding:

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Forgot to put plate back on  :angel: :

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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on July 14, 2008, 05:51:37 PM
That looks really good Dennis, if it were mine I'd put smoked indicators on front and side, and paint the front VW badge black like the Mk2 GTIs. :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on July 14, 2008, 05:53:04 PM
Best way to revive tired old plastic.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 14, 2008, 06:19:45 PM
Quote from: rambo_005 on July 14, 2008, 05:51:37 PM
That looks really good Dennis, if it were mine I'd put smoked indicators on front and side, and paint the front VW badge black like the Mk2 GTIs. :)

The smoked bits might be a good idea. The plan is to paint the front and back VW black, just haven't gotten around to it yet.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on July 14, 2008, 07:09:33 PM
If you see my girl in her white one be ready to have a drag. Shes pretty fast.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on July 14, 2008, 07:11:53 PM
Looks super sweet
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 14, 2008, 07:33:55 PM
Quote from: BB on July 14, 2008, 07:09:33 PM
If you see my girl in her white one be ready to have a drag. Shes pretty fast.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha  >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on July 14, 2008, 09:50:35 PM
shes fast alright.. she screams down my street everi day with all my mail on her push bike..
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: phil on July 15, 2008, 09:11:24 AM
Don't use any flash...it shows up any inperfections, and lights up areas such as under the wheel arches which you don't want.

Photo tip of the day  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Imti on July 15, 2008, 09:43:56 AM
Dennis it looks awesome! You must be stoked  :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on July 15, 2008, 10:05:29 AM
Lie on the ground and pretend to know what your doing with the camera...

and pretend you understand lighting.. then take millions of photos and hope one looks ok..

(thats what i do any way lol)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 18, 2008, 03:24:43 PM
I'm going to give the wheels a $15 paint job this weekend and take the photography advice given.  :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Audi Life on July 18, 2008, 08:09:56 PM
Wow car looks amazing Dennis!! :o
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on July 22, 2008, 12:50:02 PM
had a little looksie at this the other day.
Very cool with big lumpy feet  8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 22, 2008, 03:51:29 PM
Quote from: Audio on July 18, 2008, 08:09:56 PM
Wow car looks amazing Dennis!! :o

Thanks man. I am in love with it. Some tinkering and it'll be perfect. My wife is over in Japan and hopefully returning with some centercaps as that really annoys me. I didn't paint wheels this weekend waiting for the humidity to go down, but I can't wait to get rid of the white wheels. I've begun to like the way they look, they're just obvious!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on July 22, 2008, 07:30:08 PM
Quote from: Hitman on July 15, 2008, 10:05:29 AM
Lie on the ground and pretend to know what your doing with the camera...

and pretend you understand lighting.. then take millions of photos and hope one looks ok..

(thats what i do any way lol)
yea and none ever look any were near as good as Phils which always look amazing.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 22, 2008, 07:50:06 PM
Quote from: BB on July 22, 2008, 07:30:08 PM
yea and none ever look any were near as good as Phils which always look amazing.

Amen. Maybe I can coax him out with beer? cash? hookers?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 22, 2008, 08:00:12 PM
This is the photo I want to take of my car, but maybe I'm technologically deficient?  :-[

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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on July 22, 2008, 11:42:54 PM
it's more to do with the piece of glass between you and your subject.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: phil on July 23, 2008, 07:14:36 AM
I'm sorry, but thats a terrible photo of that Golf. The background is messy, blown out and distracts from the car. Never shoot a car in bright sunlight, overcast days with nice even light is much much better.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on July 23, 2008, 08:22:09 AM
Brendon is right tho using filters is a pro thing but it does make for nice looking pics if you use the right one.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on July 23, 2008, 08:54:50 AM
Quote from: BB on July 23, 2008, 08:22:09 AM
Brendon is right tho using filters is a pro thing but it does make for nice looking pics if you use the right one.

the lens.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 23, 2008, 09:28:26 AM
Quote from: phil on July 23, 2008, 07:14:36 AM
I'm sorry, but thats a terrible photo of that Golf. The background is messy, blown out and distracts from the car. Never shoot a car in bright sunlight, overcast days with nice even light is much much better.

Actually, the photo in your sig is pretty much what I'm after!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: RS ZWEI on July 23, 2008, 10:07:08 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on July 23, 2008, 09:28:26 AM
Actually, the photo in your sig is pretty much what I'm after!

Go and have a play. Find a nice background, light or lack of it coming from the right direction and you should get a good result.
Have you thought about taking pics in a car park building or against a wall?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 23, 2008, 10:19:33 AM
I'm thinking in front of my garage door will be perfect - grey door, black walls. I'm shooting with a medium size Sony digital camera and I do wonder how much is me, and how much is the camera. I don't understand what zoom I should be using (it auto focuses regardless of how zoomed in or out the lens is) when taking photo's in order to crop the picture correctly.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: RS ZWEI on July 23, 2008, 10:32:07 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on July 23, 2008, 10:19:33 AM
I'm thinking in front of my garage door will be perfect - grey door, black walls. I'm shooting with a medium size Sony digital camera and I do wonder how much is me, and how much is the camera. I don't understand what zoom I should be using (it auto focuses regardless of how zoomed in or out the lens is) when taking photo's in order to crop the picture correctly.

Have a read of this:

http://www.hymanltd.com/photographing_classic_cars.htm
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 23, 2008, 10:37:19 AM
Didn't take long to find out grey door is a bad idea  ;D. Thanks for the link.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on July 23, 2008, 10:43:45 AM
The distance the photo is taken at makes a huge difference;

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi137.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq239%2Frambo_005%2F1998%2520Golf%2520GTI%252016V%2FP62900262.jpg&hash=bc24adeb968afd1a3e1ff22e0566e9f69f81457d)

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi137.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq239%2Frambo_005%2F1998%2520Golf%2520GTI%252016V%2FP62900282.jpg&hash=de9a2ca7d3520ea7d806af173bbf0e55b3082d11)

(but I'm no photographer as you can see)

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: dubstar on July 23, 2008, 10:53:17 AM
Photography is like making love to a beautiful woman, so make like the karma sutra and try some different angles.

I've always liked this shot:

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy39%2Fkiwidubstar%2F100_2004.jpg&hash=7b6a90261f62b0721ec6a5559a94e8edd69fc11b)

and the rolling shot:

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy39%2Fkiwidubstar%2FRollingshot.jpg&hash=b0ec630af60afcb950546f80791a09ab54b18f11)

It helps if your car is low too ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: DUKIT on July 23, 2008, 05:23:18 PM
that would almost pass as my car, freaky ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 23, 2008, 06:17:52 PM
What camera's are you using?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on July 23, 2008, 08:16:44 PM
How that ABF engine in the jetta? A real puller and screamer?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on July 23, 2008, 08:30:38 PM
Quote from: b5tqkid on July 23, 2008, 05:23:18 PM
that would almost pass as my car, freaky ;D

That certainly would pass your car....  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 23, 2008, 09:02:55 PM
Quote from: BB on July 23, 2008, 08:16:44 PM
How that ABF engine in the jetta? A real puller and screamer?

It doesn't come into it's own until after 4500 RPM. In saying that, for daily driving the torque is perfect, but it could use some more grunt. It's been a great fit to the car, as it's kept the handling balance.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: dubstar on July 24, 2008, 10:23:54 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on July 23, 2008, 06:17:52 PM
What camera's are you using?

I use my Kodak EasyShare LS753 camera.  Its nothing special, but I treat my cameras pretty rough when travelling and also prefer something that can be concealed easily (esp when travelling through dodgy asian markets) and this camera hasn't let me down at all.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 24, 2008, 10:59:19 AM
I've no excuse then  :-[
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 25, 2008, 08:36:04 PM
8.1L/100km! I'm pretty happy as that amounts to 500km per tank with a few more km left in reserve. Includes commuting (45km), backcountry thrashing (16 minutes a day), city driving and getting stuck in freeway traffic. With a lighter foot and leaving earlier, I could see it getting underneath 8L/100km easy!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on July 25, 2008, 08:38:44 PM
Thats Motorway Dennis!  :police:
Yup those engines are pretty economical, doesn't seem to matter if you give them a hard time or not.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 25, 2008, 08:44:16 PM
Here's some prices for some things I was looking at. Not cheap :P

*Hard plastic rain tray
191-819-415-C $ 115.00 (available 6 days from order)  :o

900 Group - Electrical

*Big bumper fog light lenses:
191-941-723-B - Left $ 46.80 (available 15+ days from order)
191-941-724-B - Right $ 65.60 (available 15+ days from order)

All Prices are retail and exclude GST
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 26, 2008, 12:13:55 AM
In looking through vagcat can anyone point out how to access US market items?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Natesgti on July 26, 2008, 10:16:31 AM
where are you getting the hard plastic rain tray from dennis? I could be interested.. :-)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 26, 2008, 10:54:39 AM
Quote from: Natesgti on July 26, 2008, 10:16:31 AM
where are you getting the hard plastic rain tray from dennis? I could be interested.. :-)

I haven't ordered anything. It would be through CCS or Giltraps(if there is a reason for preference there?)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: RS ZWEI on July 26, 2008, 02:31:17 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on July 26, 2008, 10:54:39 AM
I haven't ordered anything. It would be through CCS or Giltraps(if there is a reason for preference there?)

Preference would be Simon at Giltraps wouldnt it? After all the time and help he gives on the forum?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 26, 2008, 04:16:47 PM
Quote from: Golfboy666GTI on July 26, 2008, 02:31:17 PM
Preference would be Simon at Giltraps wouldnt it? After all the time and help he gives on the forum?


I thought we had VASK guys at both dealerships? 16VNeil & Simon ... the penny drops. Did Simon change dealerships?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: RS ZWEI on July 26, 2008, 05:23:38 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on July 26, 2008, 04:16:47 PM
I thought we had VASK guys at both dealerships? 16VNeil & Simon ... the penny drops. Did Simon change dealerships?

Both of them worked at CCS in the VAG department, Simon now works at Giltraps, Neil works at the Italian side of things for CCS now.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on July 26, 2008, 05:41:28 PM
Lee at CCS is a also another good dude.. hes got a gutsy little fiat too..

he lurked around here for a while
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 30, 2008, 04:10:02 PM
Can someone point me in the right direction for a bi-xenon headlight kit that will fit the Jetta?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: dubstar on July 30, 2008, 04:19:03 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on July 30, 2008, 04:10:02 PM
Can someone point me in the right direction for a bi-xenon headlight kit that will fit the Jetta?

hehe you said bi ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on July 30, 2008, 04:19:46 PM
And the self leveling kit as well,Dennis
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 30, 2008, 04:49:12 PM
Quote from: qta4 on July 30, 2008, 04:19:46 PM
And the self leveling kit as well,Dennis

Why's that? What's the upside vs fixed position?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on July 30, 2008, 06:49:48 PM
I understand that is is a requirement to have self leveling HID lights, certainly every car that is factory fitted with HID has them.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on July 30, 2008, 09:28:07 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on July 30, 2008, 04:10:02 PM
Can someone point me in the right direction for a bi-xenon headlight kit that will fit the Jetta?

you cant get bi xenon kits as far as im aware..

Bi Xenon involves a rotating Lens inside the headlights housing to allow the xenon beam to be refocused to act as high beam when in prolonged highbeam mode.

but still allow the halogen high beams to flash during only breif high beem activation ie (flashing somone)

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on July 30, 2008, 09:28:36 PM
http://hidconcept.com/Kits-PhilipHella-4300k-d2s.html
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on July 31, 2008, 09:20:59 AM
So do all kits work with the Jetta lamp aperture and reflector?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on July 31, 2008, 01:25:04 PM
just get one with the fitting (ie a H4 or H7 or a H1 base)

ie with the bases that plug straight in to the back of your existing lamp

and some even have sheilds on the HID bulb to prevent the glare and unwanted beam dazzle  sometimes caused by putting a naked bulb in.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on August 01, 2008, 09:24:49 AM
Kit isn't bi-xenon  >:( :

Hello Dennis,
This kit is only single beam.
thanks


I'll keep looking. I'm looking for something like this, but as Noel said, I think I'll need a level kit also?

http://ucables.com/ref/BIXENON-H4 (http://ucables.com/ref/BIXENON-H4)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on August 01, 2008, 09:50:44 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on August 01, 2008, 09:24:49 AM
Kit isn't bi-xenon  >:( :

Hello Dennis,
This kit is only single beam.
thanks


I'll keep looking. I'm looking for something like this, but as Noel said, I think I'll need a level kit also?

http://ucables.com/ref/BIXENON-H4 (http://ucables.com/ref/BIXENON-H4)

Like i said

True Bi Xenon is a Rotating Lense inside the Lowbeam Lamp itself!

HOWEVER you can put XENON BULBS AND BALASTS in the HIGH BEAM  LAMPS if you really want.. but there isnt any gaurantee that the Xenons will like breif bursts of on and off.. that and XENONS Start off as a different colour and then when they warm up they go white-er

but really you should look at getting Projector Lense type Headlight Housings as they focus the beam alot more effectivly then say at patterned lense

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.c3cars.com%2FCFJFiles%2FC3Cars%2F29557.jpg&hash=3455831c50216cc11e4ff2eb74fc46f43922e656)

Something like this but that doesnt look as gay

Plus

Trying to run self levelers on your existing type headlights is practically imposible (as far as im aware)

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on August 01, 2008, 09:53:42 AM
here are some other projector lamps you could look at

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tmtuning.com%2FHOME%2Fmedienarchiv%2Fbilder%2F4519_g2-l-164.jpg&hash=817652c45c11e7d5aa4b9e6b4d4602a75b58a5a6)

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on August 01, 2008, 10:20:11 AM
Self leveling isn't required. It's intended to simply level the light based on vehicle load or road inclination. A must for new vehicles (per legislation) but nothing I need.

The lamp needs to be Bi-xenon, so that you have a high and low beam HID light. This requires 4 ballasts, and the lighting will function the same as standard, with greater light output levels. Most HID kits are low beam only, and hi-beam are halogen. Since I want them for driving, not posing, having a low beam HID is of nominal benefit.

I'm not sure where you're getting rotating lens and shaded bulbs from? The shaded bulbs are designed to work with specific reflectors, and are not recommended for upgrades. As to the rotating lens, I haven't come across that yet with the exception of intelligent lighting where either the headlight is motorised or their is a secondary lamp that illuminates against a lens which angles the light beam to suit the direction of travel.

Are you suggesting that OEM HID lighting has a motorised lens which re-aims the light output, and utilises the same intensity lighting for both dip and hi-beam?

I'll have a look at projectors. Thanks for the links.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on August 01, 2008, 10:40:19 AM
The MKVs and all the BMWs that all run Bi Xenon ALL have

1 x Xenon Prjector Lamp (That has a electronically controlled light direction lense within the projector housing)
and
1 x Reflector with a Halogen Bulb for "Flash High Beam"
When you click them on the "High Beam Output" (ie NOT quick bursts of Flashing)
A Sheild inside the housing of the Headlight itself Rotates and spreads the Light Upwards "Turning Night into Day"
You Could Run Four Xenon Bulbs but In my honest opinion i think its a Waste of Dosh!

Then again this is only what I have read up on, as my Mothers Car has Bi Xenon and I wanted to know how it worked and if i could put it in My R32 but flagged that idea when i found out it actually required Motorised Things within the projector lense housing itself!

The Best person to Actually talk to here is "lunar7" he designs/engineers lighting systems for Hella and knows ALOT about Xenons etc

Weather or not you can actually get the Xenon Bulbs that move or not or have two (Filaments(elements)) like the old H7 Halogen Bulbs used on MKIIs etc I am not personally sure

but i thin

Quote from: AngleBox on August 01, 2008, 10:20:11 AM
Since I want them for driving, not posing, having a low beam HID is of nominal benefit.

This is what im getting at, I think Bi Xenon is cool but not Necessary What so ever..

BSTING has xenons in his Pattern Lense Type Headlights on his MKIII and they are pretty awesome i remember checking it all out when he first got it! Projectors are optimal but Pattern Lenses and Reflectors work also! :)

also

4300k is the best kit to have, the higher the K number doesnt mean they are brighter its just the difference of colour 12,000k is purple light which is wank and stupid!

Apparently 4300k Is the Whitest Light Available and offers the Most Light out of any of the other kits!

5000k is a little Bluer for that "real jdm xenon look" but in essence it provides less light than the 4300k

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on August 01, 2008, 10:53:52 AM
Quote from: Hitman on August 01, 2008, 10:40:19 AM
This is what im getting at, I think Bi Xenon is cool but not Necessary What so ever..

BSTING has xenons in his Pattern Lense Type Headlights on his MKIII and they are pretty awesome i remember checking it all out when he first got it! Projectors are optimal but Pattern Lenses and Reflectors work also! :)


From my understanding most HID kits are for the low/dip beam only and the high beam is Halogen. This kit which I linked previously, utilises 1 lamp per side and provides hi-beam and low-beam lighting.

http://ucables.com/ref/BIXENON-H4

What function does the projector lamp perform in the MkV?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on August 01, 2008, 10:57:44 AM
well if it can do that then GO HARD! and hurry up ;) i wanna see i wanna see
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on August 01, 2008, 11:15:27 AM
Quote from: HitmanR32 on August 01, 2008, 10:57:44 AM
well if it can do that then GO HARD! and hurry up ;) i wanna see i wanna see

Hurry up!?! I've still got a few bills to pay yet on the cruiser :P. Here's what I'm reading at the moment.

http://faqlight.carpassion.info/ (http://faqlight.carpassion.info/)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on August 01, 2008, 01:07:17 PM
Have a look on Wikipedia too - there is a lot of good info buried there on headlights and headlight design.

Neil and I were looking at getting HIDs for our Corrados last year.  We did get to the point where we were about to order when he sold his car.  If you ever met Neil you'll know the research was rather thorough.  I lost interest after getting new reflectors for my headlights and installed a relay which produced enough of a difference so that I was no longer outdriving my headlights (9 and a bit volts at the bulb to over 13!).  The self-levelling side of the equation was possible by retro-fitting a setup from another VAG donor but expensive if bought as a new kit, but is fairly important to avoid blinding oncoming traffic as you go over imperfections in the road surface.

I've just lost a detailed post on this (bloody internet cafe!) which I can't be bothered redoing right now, but PM me if you are interested in what we dug out.  The H4 kits were going to be between $60 and $120 USD plus shipping depending upon the style and quality.  If you are interested PM me and I'll see what I can dig up.

www.arz-tuning.de also have some interesting bits and pieces worth looking at.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on August 04, 2008, 07:37:52 PM
Re: lights. No point in buying Halogen without a motorised component to allow them to function as hi-beam as well. Will let you know what I end up doing.

Re: certification. Just had first inspection tonight, and the surprise of the evening? Every motor swap has to be emissions tested!!!! So I asked, 'what about the Anglia'; response, 'Yep'.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on August 04, 2008, 07:50:57 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on August 04, 2008, 07:37:52 PM
Re: lights. No point in buying Halogen without a motorised component to allow them to function as hi-beam as well. Will let you know what I end up doing.

Re: certification. Just had first inspection tonight, and the surprise of the evening? Every motor swap has to be emissions tested!!!! So I asked, 'what about the Anglia'; response, 'Yep'.

Why do you want bling Dennis?

As for the emmissions standards they are doing at the moment. it is all about visible emmissions(smoke) any thing else would be really interesting
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on August 04, 2008, 09:37:47 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on August 04, 2008, 07:37:52 PM
Re: lights. No point in buying Halogen without a motorised component to allow them to function as hi-beam as well. Will let you know what I end up doing.

Re: certification. Just had first inspection tonight, and the surprise of the evening? Every motor swap has to be emissions tested!!!! So I asked, 'what about the Anglia'; response, 'Yep'.

As far as the lights go, there are bulbs available that don't have motorised hi/lo beam reflectors and still give you the hi/lo functionality - they simply have two bulbs on the one base to replicate the two filaments on the H4 bulbs you already have.   You can have two Xenon bulbs (ie: Bi-Xenon) or one Xenon, one normal halogen bulb (hi beam).  It's a bit difficult to explain without pictures, but they should be more reliable than a motorised bulb.  Certainly they are cheaper.

These guys make a reasonable looking product (http://www.vwonhid.com/)

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on August 05, 2008, 08:42:11 AM
Who votes this as the most boring topic on vask ever ;D
Shut up about those headlights and go do some skids or something :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on August 05, 2008, 08:59:26 AM
Quote from: BB on August 05, 2008, 08:42:11 AM
Who votes this as the most boring topic on vask ever ;D
Shut up about those headlights and go do some skids or something :laugh: :laugh:


Not I .... The "where can i get an iphone" would take that prize. Phuck off with your iphone  >:(

gay bar loiterers
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: veedubman on August 05, 2008, 09:01:53 AM
Quote from: gti vr6 on August 05, 2008, 08:59:26 AM

Not I .... The "where can i get an iphone" would take that prize. Phuck off with your iphone  >:(

gay bar loiterers

I got a Blackberry instead.. :P
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on August 05, 2008, 10:19:02 AM
Quote from: typ53 on August 04, 2008, 09:37:47 PM
As far as the lights go, there are bulbs available that don't have motorised hi/lo beam reflectors and still give you the hi/lo functionality - they simply have two bulbs on the one base to replicate the two filaments on the H4 bulbs you already have.   You can have two Xenon bulbs (ie: Bi-Xenon) or one Xenon, one normal halogen bulb (hi beam).  It's a bit difficult to explain without pictures, but they should be more reliable than a motorised bulb.  Certainly they are cheaper.

These guys make a reasonable looking product (http://www.vwonhid.com/)



From what I understand you significantly impact life span of the xenon lamp by igniting it repeatedly without allowing a reasonable burn time. Hence the desire to have either a) the bulb change it's position relative to the reflector or b) the reflector adapt to suit the desired beam.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on August 05, 2008, 11:43:06 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on August 05, 2008, 10:19:02 AM
From what I understand you significantly impact life span of the xenon lamp by igniting it repeatedly without allowing a reasonable burn time. Hence the desire to have either a) the bulb change it's position relative to the reflector or b) the reflector adapt to suit the desired beam.
Sorry what was that? I fell asleep. Ho HO HO Im so funny.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on August 05, 2008, 12:09:43 PM
Quote from: BB on August 05, 2008, 11:43:06 AM
Sorry what was that? I fell asleep. Ho HO HO Im so funny.

Fell asleep  ??? You're captivated and keep returning for more  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on August 18, 2008, 03:44:15 PM
Quote from: qta4 on August 04, 2008, 07:50:57 PM
As for the emmissions standards they are doing at the moment. it is all about visible emmissions(smoke) any thing else would be really interesting

They have a portable meter and an attached probe they place up the exhaust pipe. Then they drive the car around and take active readings. From there, the car is passed or failed! It's moved beyond visible emissions.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on September 01, 2008, 07:16:01 PM
The Xenons in my Jetta stay lit when you switch on the high beam. At least thats the way they were wired from factory.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on September 01, 2008, 07:22:24 PM
They all stay on on high beam John, because of the inability to turn on and off rapidly.
They look good eh
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on September 01, 2008, 07:25:18 PM
Yep, pretty impressed with them.
I think Dennis needs some  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: qta4 on September 01, 2008, 07:27:02 PM
Don't mention them to Dennis, Suzzanah may not take it ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on September 01, 2008, 07:29:20 PM
Ohhh that explains it. Probably why he hasn't picked up his boot spoiler yet  :D :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 01, 2008, 07:54:35 PM
That and the sudden change in my career (ie: I have to work). So much in fact, I'm heading down to Queenstown next week to look into a problem down there. It's like anti-success, where you have less rather than more time. Hopefully I'll stop in towards the end of the week.

Yeah, the Xenon stays lit when your halogen comes on. I wouldn't mind seeing how they work in the dark. I overdrive my lights pretty quickly in their current set-up.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on September 08, 2008, 07:39:40 PM
Have you quietened it or is it still raw?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 08, 2008, 08:29:53 PM
Much quieter with just induction noise which is just fantastic  ;D. My list of little things is down to 4 or 5 now. One of them is to get the door card speaker grilles! I haven't put them on order yet, but as soon as their in, Hennie can jump on the stereo?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on September 10, 2008, 08:21:35 PM
Sorry i missed that, how are your lights dennis? ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on September 10, 2008, 08:25:44 PM
Jem's not going to let this one go Dennis  :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 10, 2008, 08:47:48 PM
Quote from: BB on September 10, 2008, 08:21:35 PM
Sorry i missed that, how are your lights dennis? ;D

Dim and waiting for an upgrade!! I wasn't able to find a kit that satisfied me, so will start off with a relay & 100W bulb and find out how that goes. Next step would be to cry quietly while I figure out what body part to sell to by an 'off the shelf' solution (picture 80's rally car setup). Thanks for caring Jem  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on September 10, 2008, 09:37:48 PM
Word of warning on the 100W bulbs - if your reflectors are plastic Dennis, don't go there.  This is what 100W bulbs did to mine once I relayed them: 

Some of the new H4 bulbs are quite good and it might be worth trying them first.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 10, 2008, 10:03:56 PM
Ouch! Thanks for the heads up. Will take your advice and do a bulb swap first. What did you end up doing?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on September 11, 2008, 09:06:48 AM
I ended up just using relays, Phillips +50% standard wattage bulbs and new reflectors.  They are quite effective.

Sourcing reflectors was a long saga as you can no longer individually buy the Corrado ones through the VAG network. I ended up getting a pair of LHD ones that I had to modify to work with the RHD fresnel in the lense, thankfully the internal wiring harness is damn near the same as the Passat one so they came from Pick-a-part. 

The 100W bulbs had been in for so long that I had forgotten they were in there.  The increase in output (3.5 volts at the bulb give or take) when the relays were installed was incredible, at least for a short while as the chrome melted off the reflector.

You can get the old reflectors re-coated by a crowd in Waihi who coat plastic casket fittings, but of course that was discovered after the LHD parts had arrived.   ::)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on September 11, 2008, 09:41:36 AM
Waihi vacuum metalisers
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 11, 2008, 02:38:50 PM
The relay should help increase the output of a new H4 bulb as well I believe. Crazy ... melted the chroming off. How'd you find out? Smoke or visual inspection?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on September 11, 2008, 03:45:28 PM
I spotted it through discolouration that slowly appeared through the glass.  Certainly was a wake-up call.  I hadn't driven it much at night either so the extra heat generated must have been substantial!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 20, 2008, 07:12:03 PM
For the boys and girls who thought the Mk3 rims look good on the Jetta:

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi204.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb31%2FDicardo4%2FGreen%2520GTI%2F91gli.jpg&hash=3f616a77e3e0cb11560ab2d62111abfe62b72cbf)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on September 20, 2008, 07:14:21 PM
Jettas need Jetta fronts :-\
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 20, 2008, 07:16:33 PM
Yeah, but I'd like to get rid of the droopy light syndrome that seems fairly common. Ordered some GLI side trim badges, now that it's a 16V.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on September 20, 2008, 07:19:15 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on September 20, 2008, 07:12:03 PM
For the boys and girls who thought the Mk3 rims look good on the Jetta:

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi204.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb31%2FDicardo4%2FGreen%2520GTI%2F91gli.jpg&hash=3f616a77e3e0cb11560ab2d62111abfe62b72cbf)

Yup they look cool alright! Shame I just scrapped 8 of those wheels.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on September 20, 2008, 07:25:52 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on September 20, 2008, 07:16:33 PM
Yeah, but I'd like to get rid of the droopy light syndrome that seems fairly common. Ordered some GLI side trim badges, now that it's a 16V.

I have a rear Mk2 'Jetta GLI' badge if you are keen on one ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 20, 2008, 07:27:23 PM
Quote from: rambo_005 on September 20, 2008, 07:25:52 PM
I have a rear Mk2 'Jetta GLI' badge if you are keen on one ;)

ABSOLUTELY!! I'd love to have it. Can you post up a pic?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on September 20, 2008, 07:35:26 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on September 20, 2008, 07:27:23 PM
ABSOLUTELY!! I'd love to have it. Can you post up a pic?

Does the car have a CL/GL badge at the moment?

If so, it is the same only it has GLI.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 20, 2008, 07:40:35 PM
I was looking for a pic to see what shape it was in  :-[ But no, no rear badges on the Jetta at the moment (either that or I've become blind to them). Looks like I've become blind to them. Is the GLI red?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on September 20, 2008, 07:52:54 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on September 20, 2008, 07:40:35 PM
I was looking for a pic to see what shape it was in  :-[ But no, no rear badges on the Jetta at the moment (either that or I've become blind to them). Looks like I've become blind to them. Is the GLI red?

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll272/vert111/Jetta%20GTI/DSCF0024-6.jpg

;)

It's just the same style as that, all in silver. It's off a jap import Jetta GLI which is just a medium trim level (nothing like a sporty US GLI)

Would look good with a red 16V badge underneath it - I can help with one of those too if needs be :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on September 20, 2008, 08:56:52 PM
Will your badges come together like this?

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh224/a2coupe2a/emilyandherwormy4-6-08018.jpg (http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh224/a2coupe2a/emilyandherwormy4-6-08018.jpg)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GLIDN on September 22, 2008, 06:56:05 AM
that there looks awesome.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on September 23, 2008, 10:33:20 PM
Crappy cell phone pic, but you could combined the badges as on a Mk3, like so;
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on September 23, 2008, 10:34:45 PM
It's actually in good condition, only faded part is on the base of the 'J'

The photo makes it look crap!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: gti vr6 on September 24, 2008, 05:43:36 AM
Quote from: rambo_005 on September 23, 2008, 10:33:20 PM
Crappy cell phone pic, but you could combined the badges as on a Mk3, like so;

How many cars have you "killed" Rambo??  :D ;) :D

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on September 24, 2008, 05:14:12 PM
Quote from: gti vr6 on September 24, 2008, 05:43:36 AM
How many cars have you "killed" Rambo??  :D ;) :D

A few :-\

2x Mk2 Golf 3 doors, a Passat GT, an Audi 80 and a Vento ::)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Natesgti on October 05, 2008, 09:21:32 PM
is one of those 3 door golfs, the one you sold to michael?   :-X jj, that bastard.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on October 05, 2008, 09:26:00 PM
Quote from: Natesgti on October 05, 2008, 09:21:32 PM
is one of those 3 door golfs, the one you sold to michael?   :-X jj, that bastard.

That was another one (I have had 6 Mk2s ::))
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 05, 2008, 09:51:40 PM
Quote from: rambo_005 on September 23, 2008, 10:33:20 PM
Crappy cell phone pic, but you could combined the badges as on a Mk3, like so;

I'm going to get a GLI badge from the States at some point. Thanks for the ideas Rambo
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on October 05, 2008, 10:06:04 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on October 05, 2008, 09:51:40 PM
I'm going to get a GLI badge from the States at some point. Thanks for the ideas Rambo

No worries :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on October 06, 2008, 09:15:04 AM
At FBI performance in Avondale they have these cool number and letter badges that you can make up any badge you want with.
im trying to think what i should say on my car.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 12, 2008, 09:43:06 PM
Started on the sanding a prep for repainting the wheels this evening. I didn't last very long, but it looks like its going to take about 60 - 90 minutes to get a wheel ready to paint. Does that sound about right?

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: HaNs on October 12, 2008, 09:51:40 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on October 12, 2008, 09:43:06 PM
Started on the sanding a prep for repainting the wheels this evening. I didn't last very long, but it looks like its going to take about 60 - 90 minutes to get a wheel ready to paint. Does that sound about right?



Yeh, 60-90 mins depending on what finish you want. Im currently doing a set. It sucks
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on October 12, 2008, 10:02:02 PM
And once you've done one you're comitted, the other three seem to take way longer.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 12, 2008, 10:03:48 PM
Quote from: vert1 on October 12, 2008, 10:02:02 PM
And once you've done one you're comitted, the other three seem to take way longer.

Funny you should mention that. I was wondering how long I could drive the car with only one wheel grey and then went inside to see if S was using her car tomorrow. Good news, she's not, so it can stay on the jackstands for another day. By the by, your inbox is full. Sorry I missed your call, it's been a busy weekend.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on October 12, 2008, 10:17:46 PM
Yup, been there done that. More so with cleaning/polishing wheels, the first one looks awesome and you think WOW that took a long time.
So then its down hill from there with the last one looking very average.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: wilco on October 13, 2008, 10:02:52 AM
HaNs take all the wheels to the blasters - if the cant do kernels or something else soft in Taupo go to Kiwi Metal polishers in Rotorua who do.  Leaves a nice smooth finish without the risk of pitting like sand can give.  Cheap too.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: HaNs on October 13, 2008, 10:19:41 AM
Quote from: wilco on October 13, 2008, 10:02:52 AM
HaNs take all the wheels to the blasters - if the cant do kernels or something else soft in Taupo go to Kiwi Metal polishers in Rotorua who do.  Leaves a nice smooth finish without the risk of pitting like sand can give.  Cheap too.

Well they are stripped. No clear coat left on them. So ill just keep sanding with 1000 grit. Im getting there, 1/3 of the way there. Doesnt take long when you rope in other people to help.

Need to go see the powder coaters this morning and see what finish the alloy needs to be.

Im going to do a polished lip i think.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: HaNs on October 13, 2008, 10:50:00 AM
Just got back from the powder coaters and its around $50 a rim(14") to paint the whole rim black. They will run over them with sand and pre bake them to get the crap out of the alloy. They cant leave the lip alloy without risking it looking crap.

May have a go at DIY paining one of them today as its such a nice day.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 13, 2008, 11:38:05 AM
All this by hand or with a machine?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: HaNs on October 13, 2008, 11:49:44 AM
Quote from: AngleBox on October 13, 2008, 11:38:05 AM
All this by hand or with a machine?

Is what?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 13, 2008, 01:49:50 PM
Quote from: HaNs on October 13, 2008, 11:49:44 AM
Is what?

The sanding, did you do it all by hand or by machine?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: HaNs on October 13, 2008, 02:32:21 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on October 13, 2008, 01:49:50 PM
The sanding, did you do it all by hand or by machine?

Grinder and sanding disc, 1000 grit by hand as you would never get a machine in the tight spaces of the cookie cutters
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 14, 2008, 10:20:08 PM
Hope to finish my first 'test rim' tonight. Big thanks to Brendon who PM'd a little tutorial on how to. I put 2 coats of etch primer (lacquer) and 4 or 5 coats of colour and I've just finished my first coat of clear. It looks like the paint will come out with a satin finish as I haven't polished the lacquer? If this is the case I'm stoked!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on October 15, 2008, 07:34:05 AM
only if you used satin paint Dennis.
Check your clear coat is gloss.
You can always add more!  :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 15, 2008, 08:20:15 AM
Quote from: GTI's on October 15, 2008, 07:34:05 AM
only if you used satin paint Dennis.
Check your clear coat is gloss.
You can always add more!  :D

Came out gloss. I think the colour is too dark and I didn't mask a small section next to the valve correctly, so there is a white spot there. Overall impressions are good. I'd say its going to cost about $14 a wheel to paint them once you figure in paint, thinners, sand paper and masking materials and my time at $0 / hr.

Tonight I'll work on touching that spot up. I'll paint a pair of wheels before I decide if the colour is too dark. I can always add more?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on October 15, 2008, 08:23:31 AM
If they are dark then get a lighter shade and you'll get a nice metal effect from the dark base.
Let them lay in the sun and bake. don't spray in the sun tho.
Don't switch brands of paint in case it reacts.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 15, 2008, 08:06:32 PM
I'm going to use the same brand and go a lighter colour. It can go straight over the clear with a light sand and Prepsol wipedown? Here's a shot of the wheel.

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi204.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb31%2FDicardo4%2FFirstShedShot003.jpg&hash=11efb1295fa8e8c5bbcceea4d0cf6e009dd39044)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on October 15, 2008, 08:47:00 PM
It's a nice change from the white.  It's a sharp looking car Dennis.  Nice work.

Have you got a flare for the rear wheel guard?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on October 15, 2008, 08:56:31 PM
looks mean! >:D >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 15, 2008, 09:00:12 PM
Quote from: typ53 on October 15, 2008, 08:47:00 PM
It's a nice change from the white.  It's a sharp looking car Dennis.  Nice work.

Have you got a flare for the rear wheel guard?

Yessir. I took it off to bash the fender out a bit more. It should go back on this weekend.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on October 15, 2008, 09:33:31 PM
I bet your hammer wasn't as big as the one I used on that arch!  8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on October 15, 2008, 09:42:15 PM
I didn't knock the car off the jackstands, so I was pretty proud of that.  ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on October 15, 2008, 10:01:02 PM
By the way the wheels are better, much better but I do think a lighter shade would be nicer again.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on November 14, 2008, 05:59:05 PM
I'm going to attack the paint on the car to try and get it in better nick before my spoiler comes back from the painters.  My plan was pretty simple. Using rubbing compound then wax. Any general recommendations when working by hand?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on November 14, 2008, 06:09:12 PM
Get a polisher from repco, about $50.
Only use a very mild cutter with plenty of water to keep it wet, once dry you run the risk of burning the paint.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: I-LIKE-VW on November 14, 2008, 06:31:45 PM
i bort apolisher from super cheap 4 about $80 at did  a grate job. i used re-po paint docktor and then re-po carnuba wax. i did the wax by hand
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on November 14, 2008, 07:41:57 PM
I like re-po, very good products to use.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on November 14, 2008, 10:26:36 PM
Quote from: vert1 on November 14, 2008, 06:09:12 PM
Get a polisher from repco, about $50.
Only use a very mild cutter with plenty of water to keep it wet, once dry you run the risk of burning the paint.

Like running water or just always wet?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on November 15, 2008, 07:52:24 AM
Just with a sqirty bottle Dennis. All you are doing is to stop the polisher burning the paint, its much easier and better results with a machine. Also watch your polisher speed, if you buy one make sure it can spin slow enough (eg variable speed)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Pristle on November 15, 2008, 09:14:42 AM
Nice advice, thanks John.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on November 23, 2008, 09:52:20 PM
Quote from: rambo_005 on September 23, 2008, 10:33:20 PM
Crappy cell phone pic, but you could combined the badges as on a Mk3, like so;
(https://www.vask.org.nz/index.php?PHPSESSID=10c47b91d1e42f1504b99c26434764c2&action=dlattach;topic=9483.0;attach=5991)

Rambo - I'll take that badge set if you still have it.

I painted the front and rear VW badges today and did a bit of rust touch up on the hood. Not much else though; no wheels done, no polishing.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on November 29, 2008, 08:30:22 PM
Can someone please post-up a quick how to on front bumper removal (big bumper type)? I bumped into a car a few weeks back and need to straighten out the bumper supports.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on November 29, 2008, 08:37:07 PM
you need to undo the four bolts up under the front rails. two each side 17mm
Jack it up first. then the plastic skin just unclips off the steel support.
DON'T undo the outer 15mm one as the front X member will fall on you.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: rambo_005 on November 29, 2008, 08:43:34 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on November 23, 2008, 09:52:20 PM
Rambo - I'll take that badge set if you still have it.

PM me with an offer ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on November 29, 2008, 08:48:22 PM
Quote from: GTI's on November 29, 2008, 08:37:07 PM
you need to undo the four bolts up under the front rails. two each side 17mm
Jack it up first. then the plastic skin just unclips off the steel support.
DON'T undo the outer 15mm one as the front X member will fall on you.

I had my head under the car for about 15 minutes and gave up. Are these the bolts on the front rail and you need to be a contortionist to get them?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: typ53 on November 29, 2008, 09:53:31 PM
Yep, they would be the ones.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on November 29, 2008, 09:58:55 PM
it's piss easy Dennis don't be a poof.

they are the two bolts in the 8 shape they clamp the front member and bumper irons to the chassis.
the little ones just hold it while the bumper is off.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: uero-jet on November 29, 2008, 10:01:00 PM
can be a b#*ch of a job geting them to line up when puting back if you dont bend it perfectly.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on November 30, 2008, 10:06:38 AM
Come on Dennis!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: chis on November 30, 2008, 10:25:22 AM
doing this job on my my mk2 came close to reminding me of moments in my mk1 where i nearly went crazy and threw my toys!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on November 30, 2008, 10:57:35 AM
If you have a dolly to lay on and a small torch it's easy.
You line the rear bolt up and get it finger tight
then same on other side then the other two just line up factory.
Don't tighten any until they are all in Doctor.
Sometimes pays to wear some safety glasses as all the road grime can start to fall in your eyes
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on November 30, 2008, 05:36:44 PM
Quote from: GTI's on November 29, 2008, 09:58:55 PM
it's piss easy Dennis don't be a poof.

they are the two bolts in the 8 shape they clamp the front member and bumper irons to the chassis.
the little ones just hold it while the bumper is off.


We weren't talking about the same bolts. Very easy to get to. Thanks for pointing out which ones.  ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on November 30, 2008, 07:21:37 PM
Took the front bumper off, removed the plastic and re-installed the bumper frame. I then took (that doesn't look like a real word  ??? ) some centerline measurements, gave it a fair wack with the hammer and came within about 3 mm and it wouldn't go over any further. It was also out of alignment front to back on the left side (the side I didn't use) so took it off, and the bumper had been in a previous collision that buckled the support  >:( . Now I've got to source another driver side bumper hanger.

While I had the car up on the jacks I took the wheels off and painted them on one side. They came out sweet, except for the one that fell over while I was drying it  >:( . Also found out some good and bad news. The front wheels don't rub, which I thought they did. The bad news is the sound I hear under hard cornering is the body rubbing .... on the asphalt!! Rear wheel arch went back on as well.

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on November 30, 2008, 07:26:54 PM
What part of the body rubs?
must be low Dennis
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on November 30, 2008, 08:45:56 PM
Front air dam. i thought it was the front wheel rubbing the inner fender but after studying the front air dam and the fenders, it's the dam that's taking the abuse. Perhaps it's not too low, just to low for the spring rate?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: GTI's on November 30, 2008, 08:51:49 PM
Thats ok so long as it's not going to come off and get stuck under a wheel.
probably only rubs over big bumps and in and out of driveways?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on November 30, 2008, 08:59:19 PM
It does depend on the bump. I can manage the driveway thing, but 90 kph + corners in my neck of the woods have it getting rubbed hard.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on March 11, 2009, 08:18:35 PM
Nigel, what's your thoughts on megasquirt being used as a piggyback air/fuel management unit?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on March 11, 2009, 09:40:44 PM
i would say just go the whole hog and control everything... otherwise just chip the ABF...
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on March 11, 2009, 10:03:29 PM
Dennis- I borrowed and article off Jem from AMD UK, they claim 25hp increase with their chip for the ABF.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: BB on March 12, 2009, 07:47:49 PM
And a way smoother delivery. its my next move.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on March 12, 2009, 07:50:20 PM
Quote from: NasTnaS on March 11, 2009, 09:40:44 PM
i would say just go the whole hog and control everything... otherwise just chip the ABF...

Can it be used as a piggy back fuel management system, allowing the ECU to continue controlling other functions (like ABS)?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Period_Correct_ on March 12, 2009, 08:47:16 PM
why not get the MS to control the ABS? your best bet is www.msefi.com
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on March 13, 2009, 09:17:10 PM
Don't want to abandon the stock ECU. Off to investigate more options.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on March 13, 2009, 09:18:54 PM
You email CTS?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Filx on March 15, 2009, 01:54:18 PM
Considered using an extra injector controller? Can be a simple, low cost and effective standalone solution for some extra fuelling.

e.g. http://www.sdsefi.com/eic.html (http://www.sdsefi.com/eic.html) I really like these guys - anyone that does stuff for planes is ok in my book!  :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: Angle on March 15, 2009, 03:31:57 PM
Quote from: vert1 on March 13, 2009, 09:18:54 PM
You email CTS?

Will tonight, after S heads off to Oz  :angel: No need in alarming her to early.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF
Post by: 80 Vert on March 15, 2009, 03:39:21 PM
Ahhh yes under the radar is important  ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta Upgrade
Post by: Angle on May 02, 2009, 08:24:50 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 09, 2008, 07:40:45 PM
(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi204.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb31%2FDicardo4%2FGreen%2520GTI%2FDSC_0012-31.jpg&hash=51f9baa21de2d2b93ef5150d7238fba729ce4828)

Bringing up a picture from a year ago, do any of the VW dealer guys here know what the part number is for the cup holder? I'd like to get one in. Hard to believe a year has gone by since this project started!

Dubbed, I messed around and got the stereo in, but I'll need your help!
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: qta4 on May 02, 2009, 08:29:23 PM
Are you still in america Dennis, LHD?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 02, 2009, 09:37:49 PM
Are you anti-cupholder Noel? I'm happy to get a cupholder for a RH drive vehicle if it exists  ;)
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: 80 Vert on May 02, 2009, 10:40:38 PM
Oooooohhhh noooooo, I've thrown one of those out!  :-[
Came in one of my imports, looked genuine so should be available.
Have to check etka, have you looked on ebay?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 02, 2009, 10:50:50 PM
Quote from: vert1 on May 02, 2009, 10:40:38 PM
Oooooohhhh noooooo, I've thrown one of those out!  :-[
Came in one of my imports, looked genuine so should be available.
Have to check etka, have you looked on ebay?

All the times we've talked about cup-holders and you throw one out  >:( (shakes head in disbelief).
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: 80 Vert on May 02, 2009, 10:52:15 PM
I'm sorry Dennis  :'(  I should have known better
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 02, 2009, 10:56:52 PM
Oh well, at least I know how much one will cost me now  >:D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: old4130 on May 03, 2009, 09:52:46 AM
tmtuning used to have them

But I think they may have been angled for LHD car
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 03, 2009, 06:04:54 PM
Some pic's of my newly coated rims by Tim at Pro Coat, aluminum wheel nuts and VW center caps (please excuse the quality of the photos  :P ):

(https://www.vask.org.nz/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi204.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fbb31%2FDicardo4%2FPowderCoatedWheels005.jpg&hash=96d5df873423440c72e4d0159ddcbeadd0147c6f)

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Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: qta4 on May 03, 2009, 06:09:03 PM
Looking good Dennis, crap did i just admit that a Jetta looks good ???
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 03, 2009, 06:33:39 PM
Quote from: qta4 on May 03, 2009, 06:09:03 PM
Looking good Dennis, s**t did i just admit that a Jetta looks good ???

It's like common sense, one day you turn the corner and !!!BAM!!! you've got it. Jetta love is like that too.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: qta4 on May 03, 2009, 06:53:05 PM
Dont get carried away there Dennis, i said it looked good, not bloody marvelous, like i'd describe a Golf
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: AndyGti on May 03, 2009, 07:17:38 PM
Quote from: qta4 on May 03, 2009, 06:53:05 PM
Dont get carried away there Dennis, i said it looked good, not bloody marvelous, like i'd describe a Golf
hehehehehehehe  >:D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: 80 Vert on May 03, 2009, 07:41:17 PM
Aluminum  ??? What the heck is that?  ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: qta4 on May 03, 2009, 07:43:16 PM
Quote from: vert1 on May 03, 2009, 07:41:17 PM
Aluminum  ??? What the heck is that?  ;D

Please expand John?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: 80 Vert on May 03, 2009, 07:44:52 PM
ALUMINUM
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: 80 Vert on May 03, 2009, 07:51:41 PM
Looks great Dennis, much better than white wheels. JETTA'S RULE!!!
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: qta4 on May 03, 2009, 07:56:54 PM
For goodness sake , they are only wheels John >:D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 05, 2009, 09:07:08 PM
Ordered floor mats today from Autodec out in East Tamaki. I've heard good and bad, so fingers crossed I get the good. They are due to be ready on Thursday. The list of things left to do is getting smaller month by month.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: spooln on May 05, 2009, 09:18:18 PM
Are you driving this every day?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: RS ZWEI on May 05, 2009, 09:34:40 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 05, 2009, 09:07:08 PM
Ordered floor mats today from Autodec out in East Tamaki. I've heard good and bad, so fingers crossed I get the good. They are due to be ready on Thursday. The list of things left to do is getting smaller month by month.

What are the mats costing you Dennis?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 05, 2009, 09:52:17 PM
The mats sound like good value to me - $120 w/ VW logo on front mats. Rear trunk mat is a bit more and is made of a heavier grade carpet with an integral back that is then attached to 6lb underlay.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: 80 Vert on May 05, 2009, 09:53:59 PM
More weight to slow you down, add the dynamat and oh boy- turbo needed  ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 05, 2009, 09:59:56 PM
Help with a bit of translation here:

http://www.vwclub.bg/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113261 (http://www.vwclub.bg/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113261)
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: HaNs on May 05, 2009, 10:07:30 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on May 05, 2009, 09:59:56 PM
Help with a bit of translation here:

http://www.vwclub.bg/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113261 (http://www.vwclub.bg/forum/viewtopic.php?t=113261)

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Rough but you can find out what parts he has


QuoteThe idea of the project is strong street car. Ето какво включва: Here's what included:
- бутала woessner 82,93мм на 8 степен на сгъстяване - Pistons woessner 82,93 mm, 8 degrees of compression
- биели integrated engineering 159mm - Integrated engineering 159mm piston rod
- турбина gt3076 - Gt3076 turbine
- външен гейт на 50мм - External geyt of 50 millimeters
- 50мм bov, спрял сум се на tial или репликата му - 50 millimeters bov, stopped tial sum of the line or its
- дюзи 630цц siemens deka с 4баров регулатор и рейка от 1.8Т - Nozzles 630tsts siemens deka 4barov a regulator of reyka and 1.8T
- walbro помпа във външен съд с оригиналната като подкачваща - Walbro pump outside court as the original podkachvashta
- 6-степенна кутия - 6-degree box
- керамика - Ceramics
- генерация с даунпайп на 76мм с едно проходно и едно крайно гърне мисля да е - Generation of daunpayp of 76 millimeters with a pass and a final pot I think is
- 76мм турбо пътища - 76 millimeters turbo roads
- къстъм всмукателен колеткор с долно пълнене - Kastam suction koletkor the bottom filling
- DTA s60 ще управлява мотора, тва е най ефтиния варянт за секвенционално впръскване на dta с 400 или 500kPa map - DTA s60 will manage motors tva is eftiniya varyant for sekventsionalno injection dta 400 or 500kPa map
- пълен ребилд на мотора( почти квото се сетите ) - Full rebild a bike (almost quotas remember)
- ребилд на главата(водачи, гумички, легла, верига) - Rebild head (drivers, rubber, bed, chain)
- маслен радиатор - Oil heater
- нитро система NX, 30-тина шотчета за да е пълна картинката - Nitro system NX, 30-Tina shotcheta to full image
Целта е около 400 коня на колелата. The goal is about 400 horses to the wheels. Пректа е тепърва започнат,възможно е и конецепцията леко да се измени, ще ъпдейтвам като отбелязваме напредък Direct start is still possible and konetseptsiyata slightly amend will apdeytvam as progress
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Pristle on May 07, 2009, 02:32:04 AM
Quote from: vert1 on May 03, 2009, 07:44:52 PM
ALUMINUM


John, as much as it pains me to say it, aluminum is originally correct. The 'ium' came about to provide conformity in pronunciation as per: selenium, rhodium, etc. An American scientist in '20s bucked convention and reverted to the original, which has held sway ever since. That said, aluminium is also correct as the rest of the world haven't reverted.


Now if we just get the Americans to put a freaking 'h' on the front of the word 'herb'. I reckon the real reason it was dropped was that herb pronounced with an 'h' requires exhalation, whereas dropping it doesn't. The premature exhalation reduces the effect when passing a joint around saying "' 'ey dude, want some 'erb".
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: 80 Vert on May 07, 2009, 06:12:13 PM
You mean to say Americans are right  ??? Noooo that can't be!  ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 07, 2009, 06:24:54 PM
Quote from: HaNs on May 05, 2009, 10:07:30 PM
Rough but you can find out what parts he has

What language is that?

Some boring pictures of some very exciting parts - floor mats!!

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Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: 80 Vert on May 07, 2009, 06:28:03 PM
Looks like they did a nice job, also a heel mat. What did the boot carpet come out like?
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: qta4 on May 07, 2009, 06:28:33 PM
They look very smart Dennis, you wil have to have very clean shoes to ride in your car from now on.. ;D
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 07, 2009, 09:22:33 PM
Boot carpet came out ok - makes the rest of the trunk look bad. Will continue to play around with the boot underlay. I blanketed below the spare tire and it has raised the spare tire the same amount I raised the floor so I'll get some more underlay at a later time. I purchased a square of dynomat and put a few pieces on the underside of the trunk and along the rear of the trunk bay to see if it helps with the sound. Looking forward to my quieter drive in tomorrow! Floor mats look good and VW logo is spot on, which I wasn't convinced of before I installed them.
Title: Re: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 09, 2009, 10:37:19 PM
The car passed!! I drove the family up to Pakeri (not sure about the spelling) today and she was so quiet we could have a calm conversation in a low voice. I also installed some new headlight lamps which work brilliantly and installed some dynomat under the hood and then applied a hood mat to the underside. Will take some pics tomorrow.

Now to strip the door cards, dynomat the larger areas of the doors and my soundproofing will be over. Anyone have a mint (read no dents, dings, rust or scale) Mk 2 hood, jetta trunk, 4 doors and front wings? I'm going to re-paint the Jetta a dark grey, but want to get the parts together first. Won't be for some time, so I thought I might put the word out anyways.
Title: Re: Project: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: Angle on May 19, 2009, 10:37:45 PM
Spent some time over the last few days doing a few bits and bobs on the car. Replaced the stock tranny mount with a VF Engineering mount to match my VF front mount. Has done for the Jetta what the VF dogbone mount does for the MkIV's - provided a more direct shift feel and reduced engine movement. I'm tickled pink. Noel, perhaps something you should think about for the Mk1?
Title: Re: Project: Mk2 Jetta ABF by Dub Shack
Post by: BB on May 20, 2009, 08:29:30 AM
Your mats are lovely Dennis :-*
You sure the family was having calm conversations in low voices? You must still be an American Dennis as a Kiwi family could never do that with two young boys and a back seat driver, I mean a wife ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on August 05, 2009, 10:10:42 PM
Going to get started shortly on this car again, so if anyone has nice front guards or bonnet, please let me know. Wouldn't mind a front big bumper in good condition too.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: gti vr6 on August 06, 2009, 09:29:42 AM
I have a spare set of Jetta B Bumpers.... Oh and a bonnet
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on February 07, 2010, 11:13:38 AM
Still looking for front lip.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on February 12, 2010, 10:25:44 PM
SOLD ... and now for the next chapter in the Jetta's life. She went to an enthusiast who couldn't afford to put her together, but I believe will truly enjoy her and treat her right.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Hoff on February 12, 2010, 10:34:38 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on February 12, 2010, 10:25:44 PM
SOLD ... and now for the next chapter in the Jetta's life. She went to an enthusiast who couldn't afford to put her together, but I believe will truly enjoy her and treat her right.

Damit haha the search continues.  Vasker?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on February 13, 2010, 09:58:04 AM
Quote from: Turbed_85_gti on February 12, 2010, 10:34:38 PM
Damit haha the search continues.  Vasker?

No, but he is aware of the site, so may join up.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: GTI's on February 13, 2010, 11:54:08 AM
Congrats, So will the rabbit be back in the works?  Be good to see that out and about.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on February 13, 2010, 10:27:04 PM
Will head down to the body shop next week and see where I can get to about getting a delivery date sorted out. Will trailer the car back to the shed, pull the motor and send her back for final paint and colour. Still no rush, but should get the car finished by the close of the year, or at least re-assembled.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 13, 2011, 07:58:20 PM
I thought it was about time i carried on with the thread have done a lote of work over the year i have owned her.

bilstien coilovers.
dba rotors with ferodo racing pads.
new bushers all round.
omp strut bars.
cold air box.
rear boot lip.
crystal indicators.


Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 13, 2011, 07:59:52 PM
coilovers
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 13, 2011, 08:01:24 PM
brakes
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 13, 2011, 08:02:45 PM
 :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 13, 2011, 08:03:36 PM
 :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 13, 2011, 08:04:25 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 13, 2011, 08:05:34 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: DubMan on February 13, 2011, 09:04:20 PM
Looking good Mate! .....NICE!  8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: 80 Vert on February 13, 2011, 09:41:02 PM
Still looking as staunch as ever, good to see that car being looked after.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: choppy16v on February 14, 2011, 08:39:28 AM
this cars a beast! i saw it at qualitat a while ago looking very purposeful. 8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: the phantom on February 14, 2011, 08:57:57 AM
is this the car I spotted in Highbury a couple of weeks ago?  if yes, it looks great
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: chis on February 14, 2011, 08:59:56 AM
did u manage to get a strut brace for the front?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Filx on February 14, 2011, 08:59:25 AM
So sweet! This car just keeps delivering the goods.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 14, 2011, 05:38:31 PM
yes got a omp front strut brace but i have to move the mk3 gti brake booster to make it fit and dont really want to move it. but if anybody wants it its for sale for $100.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: KARTS on February 14, 2011, 06:08:24 PM
Haha, Nick, I think people LOVE your ride mate. You've made 11 posts and have got a respect rating of 13. Not a bad start!

She is a beauty, well done.  8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: GTI's on February 14, 2011, 06:09:16 PM
Great to see it getting the treatment!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: chis on February 14, 2011, 07:31:57 PM
in what way would you have to move the booster nick?
does it obstruct the filler cap?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 14, 2011, 08:20:11 PM
yea if i put it on i wont be able to access the filler cap i would have to unbolt the strut brace to get to it :(
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: BCH on February 15, 2011, 03:15:01 PM
could just do the old dip stick fill with a decent funnel if it needs topping
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: BB on February 15, 2011, 03:31:11 PM
Oil filler cap or Brake filler cap.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: choppy16v on February 15, 2011, 05:19:26 PM
brake remote reservoir i presume
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 15, 2011, 09:00:22 PM
yea brake fluid cap. it gets completely covered by the strut brace cant even get it open. Im a cnc operator so im just going to make a new one out of some 8mm flat bar :) then i know it will fit nice  :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: chis on February 15, 2011, 09:13:59 PM
im not for things that don't fit!
when you mock up a nice one let me know, I think brendon would be keen too
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: choppy16v on February 16, 2011, 10:50:00 AM
Quote from: Nick on February 15, 2011, 09:00:22 PM
yea brake fluid cap. it gets completely covered by the strut brace cant even get it open. Im a cnc operator so im just going to make a new one out of some 8mm flat bar :) then i know it will fit nice  :D
make a few .i'll buy one or two 8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 16, 2011, 05:41:35 PM
will do:D. I was thinking i might machine in a VW GTI logo into the brace aswell. Would really look the part then 8).
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: choppy16v on February 16, 2011, 06:23:49 PM
sweet or vw motorsport logo 8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 21, 2011, 07:08:48 PM
just finished the first strut brace i machined it out of plastic as it was fast and cheap. the real strut bars will be out of alloy. with VW logos machined in. they will be VERY VERY stiff and light 8). the more of you that want them the cheaper they will be. If i make 5 they will be under $100 each as a sheet of 5mm alloy cost $500. if you want can also powder coat for a thew extra $.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 21, 2011, 07:09:54 PM
.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: 00quattro00 on February 21, 2011, 07:18:16 PM
Wouldnt it be cheaper to have it laser cut than machined?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: choppy16v on February 21, 2011, 07:51:41 PM
looks cool
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: qta4 on February 21, 2011, 08:00:31 PM
Any chance of a bracket for a Mk1, really high towards bonnet.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 21, 2011, 08:01:13 PM
we also do laser cuting i just like the cnc look.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 21, 2011, 08:02:52 PM
yea can do a mk1 bracket will need to look at your car to get dimensions.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: qta4 on February 21, 2011, 08:19:53 PM
That would be cool, but im in Otorohanga miles away from you.

I will try to find some dimensions.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: 80 Vert on February 21, 2011, 09:46:37 PM
That looks great, I'd be keen on a MK4 one...............
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 22, 2011, 04:11:18 AM
sweet as all i need is to cheek out the dimesions of that car. it will be a little more expensive (not much more) then the mk2 one just because its going to take a little bit of time to do the drawings on autocad.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 23, 2011, 10:50:36 AM
the price for the strut bars will be $150 for mk2s & $180 for all other makes just because i will have to spend time working out the dimensions. all bars have VW MOTORSPORTS logos machined into them. Please let me know who wants 1 or 2 so i can order the alloy. just remember braces like these would cost over $300 eanywhere else and there NZ made :D

cheers Nick
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Omes on February 23, 2011, 11:21:34 AM
yep, i'll have one for my mk2 please Nick.

If we get more than 5 orders then they will be around $100ea which is superb  8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on February 23, 2011, 05:38:19 PM
just finished the first strut bar in alloy op you guys like them. i know i said they were going to cost $100 each sorry but they will be $150 each for mk2 and $180 for every over model.

cheers Nick
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: 80 Vert on February 23, 2011, 05:52:23 PM
150, thats an absolute steal!
Looks great, ohhh to have access to a CNC machine................... :P
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on February 23, 2011, 09:34:57 PM
That looks awesome!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Omes on March 11, 2011, 10:26:26 AM
Got mine y'day eve, cheers Nick  8)

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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: BB on March 11, 2011, 02:07:34 PM
Whats that supposed to do..... :-X
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: spooln on March 11, 2011, 03:12:01 PM
Liking the logo - nice one!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 13, 2011, 01:58:34 PM
just got my powersteering reconditioned and finally installed my strut bar 8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 13, 2011, 02:00:13 PM
strut really makes a difference she is as hard as a school boy on Viagra ;)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 13, 2011, 02:03:21 PM
 8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: M on March 13, 2011, 02:16:35 PM
Quote from: Omes on March 11, 2011, 10:26:26 AM
Got mine y'day eve, cheers Nick  8)

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I think I will take one of them for my Corrado thanks, same fitment as MK2. Will PM you, great work.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: BB on March 14, 2011, 08:29:13 AM
I was of the opinion that mk2s have little benifit from them and they are just bling.
But that photo of a car park over a curb tells all...................Or does it mean nothing.
Can you really tell some difference Nick?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: kiwihigh on March 14, 2011, 08:48:27 AM
Quote from: BB on March 14, 2011, 08:29:13 AM
I was of the opinion that mk2s have little benifit from them and they are just bling.
But that photo of a car park over a curb tells all...................Or does it mean nothing.
Can you really tell some difference Nick?

They do help, I noticed straight away the difference when i put mine in ( not as nice as the one above :-* but does the job )
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: qta4 on March 14, 2011, 09:43:48 AM
Quote from: Nick on March 13, 2011, 02:00:13 PM
strut really makes a difference she is as hard as a school boy on Viagra ;)

And just how does a front strut brace allow you to cock up a rear wheel.

WOW         ;D

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 14, 2011, 03:41:29 PM
it does make a huge difference to mk2s not so much to mk3s up. but you defiantly feel the difference driving into driveways and over bumpy roads.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 14, 2011, 08:07:29 PM
just made up some top strut covers makes the strut bar look cool 8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 14, 2011, 08:08:39 PM
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Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on March 14, 2011, 08:33:04 PM
Love the way your rolling. She's in good hands. 8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: M M on March 14, 2011, 09:15:48 PM
Those look really nice.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: BB on March 17, 2011, 09:55:13 AM
Hmmm Well ill be darned then. Its just the way that one looks, it looks like it would flex before it would do much stiffening but I belive the before and after story ;)
I mean if it feels differnt and thats all you did it works!

Just like ball joint spacers do eh Noel, not as good as extenders for sure but they do make a difference. The arm swings over a differnt area and it stops the wheel being pulled inwards so much. :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on March 17, 2011, 08:28:48 PM
Quote from: Nick on March 13, 2011, 02:03:21 PM
8)

That's the one. Looks good.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 18, 2011, 05:03:07 AM
they are very stiff. i also have a omp (made in italy) front strut and that flexes a crap load more. i use a special engineering program that shows all the week points and puts the bar under huge pressure so i could design it well to do a good job. :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 20, 2011, 12:57:12 PM
didint like the vw caps eanymore so made some gti ones 8)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 20, 2011, 12:58:18 PM
 >:D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on March 20, 2011, 01:15:46 PM
What I would like to buy off you is VW caps where the VW is raised, instead of lowered. Can you do that?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Nick on March 20, 2011, 01:16:56 PM
yea can do that easy :D
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: BB on April 02, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
Quote from: AngleBox on March 20, 2011, 01:15:46 PM
What I would like to buy off you is VW caps where the VW is raised, instead of lowered. Can you do that?

That so you have a stamp Dennis? :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: Angle on April 02, 2011, 05:04:10 PM
Quote from: BB on April 02, 2011, 02:03:30 PM
That so you have a stamp Dennis? :)

If they are being used as a stamp, I suppose I've written the car off!
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: M on June 24, 2011, 05:53:29 PM
Quote from: Nick on February 23, 2011, 05:38:19 PM
just finished the first strut bar in alloy op you guys like them. i know i said they were going to cost $100 each sorry but they will be $150 each for mk2 and $180 for every over model.

cheers Nick

Are you still making these please Nick?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: andyc315 on March 29, 2017, 11:05:03 AM
If anyone is interested, this car is now for sale in Northland.

Unfortunately it is a little rough around the edges cosmetically, but is still running well mechanically.

I have recently replaced the coilpack, plastic coolant flange, battery and 2 front tyres. It has also had new front pads 4 months ago and geometry adjustment at the same time as the front tyres.

WoF and rego to May 2017

Car will be listed on TradeMe shortly, but please PM for any info, I would prefer it to go to an enthusiast who will look after it properly!
Title: TRADEME LINK
Post by: andyc315 on March 29, 2017, 11:35:43 AM
Quote from: andyc315 on March 29, 2017, 11:05:03 AM
If anyone is interested, this car is now for sale in Northland.

Unfortunately it is a little rough around the edges cosmetically, but is still running well mechanically.

I have recently replaced the coilpack, plastic coolant flange, battery and 2 front tyres. It has also had new front pads 4 months ago and geometry adjustment at the same time as the front tyres.

WoF and rego to May 2017

Car will be listed on TradeMe shortly, but please PM for any info, I would prefer it to go to an enthusiast who will look after it properly!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1291704107&ed=true (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1291704107&ed=true)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: spooln on March 29, 2017, 12:48:37 PM
If you dont mind me azking what are the rough bits?
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: ranton-inc on March 29, 2017, 02:25:53 PM
I wonder what happened to Dennis' old cars because both are like Hot potatoes.. they just keep getting bought and sold Constantly... The 24V SC Jetta and this....

Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: dave on March 29, 2017, 03:19:39 PM
Quote from: spooln on March 29, 2017, 12:48:37 PM
If you dont mind me azking what are the rough bits?

Missing jack point covers in side skirts etc
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: andyc315 on March 29, 2017, 04:24:04 PM
Quote from: spooln on March 29, 2017, 12:48:37 PM
If you dont mind me azking what are the rough bits?

Jacking point covers are missing as said above.
Bumpers/exterior trims are a bit loose, I imagine they need new clips or some plastic welding, or both
Golf ball looking dent in the right C pillar

Paint is still surprisingly good for a car of this age though
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: andyc315 on March 29, 2017, 04:29:25 PM
Quote from: ranton-inc on March 29, 2017, 02:25:53 PM
I wonder what happened to Dennis' old cars because both are like Hot potatoes.. they just keep getting bought and sold Constantly... The 24V SC Jetta and this....

I'm only selling due to going back to England in 7 weeks, otherwise it's done me well since I've owned it and I'd take it with me if it'd fit in my suitcase!

In the right hands it'd be an awesome little car again. Served me well as a daily driver. I've put 17000km on it after it'd been sat for a few months with the previous owner and only had a few niggles with it like the battery and coilpack.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: jacksirius on April 20, 2017, 08:39:51 PM
hey vask first time poster, im contemplating getting this car, but have had afew people suggest i get a straight gti instead, i was also looking at a golf 1.8i oettinger, but cant find any info on that model, any advice welcome
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: RS ZWEI on April 21, 2017, 09:30:23 AM
Quote from: jacksirius on April 20, 2017, 08:39:51 PM
hey vask first time poster, im contemplating getting this car, but have had afew people suggest i get a straight gti instead, i was also looking at a golf 1.8i oettinger, but cant find any info on that model, any advice welcome

This car is pretty cool, though I don't know the condition of it now. Nice that it has airbags and Mk3 GTI Recaros.

Whats the Golf Oettinger? My guess is its a base model jap import with a Oettinger badge and maybe some wheels.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: jacksirius on April 21, 2017, 11:57:02 AM
plastic covers missing off the jacking points, a dent in the c pillar and loose bumper and trim. yea that was my guess on the oettinger also...
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: RS ZWEI on April 21, 2017, 12:50:23 PM
Quote from: jacksirius on April 21, 2017, 11:57:02 AM
plastic covers missing off the jacking points, a dent in the c pillar and loose bumper and trim. yea that was my guess on the oettinger also...

All easy/cheap jobs to sort? Mr Dent should be able to take the dent out of the c pillar.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: McDoof on April 21, 2017, 03:18:57 PM
I heard the suspension on this is incredibly firm.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: andyc315 on April 21, 2017, 03:40:45 PM
Quote from: McDoof on April 21, 2017, 03:18:57 PM
I heard the suspension on this is incredibly firm.

It's riding on coilovers so it is firm, yes  :)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: dave on April 21, 2017, 05:35:37 PM
Doesn't have the good bilstein anymore I believe
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: 80 Vert on April 21, 2017, 09:26:02 PM
Another good car ruined by owners, common story here in NZ.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: jacksirius on April 21, 2017, 10:12:24 PM
so what upgrades have been taken off this car? im viewing this weekend
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: andyc315 on April 24, 2017, 10:19:53 AM
Now 3 weeks until I leave the country.

Price dropped to $3500 ono

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1291704107 (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1291704107)
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: McDoof on April 24, 2017, 10:58:10 AM
While this is a bit tired, in the right hands this is a great starting point for a great car.
Title: Re: PROJECT CAR: Mk2 Jetta ABF Conversion
Post by: andyc315 on May 15, 2017, 08:10:13 PM
This car has now been sold to a panel beater in Queenstown, good things to come I'm sure!