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Title: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 08, 2009, 07:18:17 pm
Well I got the K24 turbo off Hemihead and i am going to fit it to my 200 to get the much better mid rage the 200 so badly lacks.
 I have driven a 200 with a K24 and the difference is amazing.
 I have a spare engine that i am going to keep now and refresh very slightly.
  Will remove the head, do the valve guide seals and lap the valves in and make sure the inlet and exhaust manifolds and gaskets are flowed nicely. And get it refaced. I have a head gasket already I got off TM ages ago. I wil also have all the shims clearances set.
 The block I will possibly fit rings and big end bearings as long as they are cheap enough.
 I will swap the cambelt and pump etc that is all new off my old motor.
 I will fit a good A/C pump I have as well.
 It will make for a really good car, so much better than a standard 200.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: qta4 on March 08, 2009, 07:48:34 pm
crap Jeremy , have you just won lotto, you will have 2 supercars ;D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: typ53 on March 08, 2009, 08:18:25 pm
The Benzine is going to his head, poor fella.  Now Jem will have to decide which one to take to the track.   :-\ 
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: qta4 on March 08, 2009, 08:27:49 pm
He could tow the golf behind the 200, then race both, and tow the dead one home ;D

You just gotto love super cars
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 08, 2009, 08:36:49 pm
No no lotto, it wont cost much and willtake place over the next few months no doubt.
 But it will make a much better car out of what i have already.
 I paid $300 for the turbo and don't expect to spend more than about 4-500 more. Maybe much less.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: typ53 on March 08, 2009, 08:45:53 pm
He could tow the golf behind the 200, then race both, and tow the dead one home ;D

You just gotto love super cars

 ;D  ;D  ;D

I shouldn't laugh, I had to get towed home from Concours one year.   ::)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: qta4 on March 08, 2009, 08:48:08 pm
I wasnt laughing, really good idea ;D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: NasTnaS on March 08, 2009, 09:53:15 pm
;D  ;D  ;D

I shouldn't laugh, I had to get towed home from Concours one year.   ::)


just survived that fire as well...  ;)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: typ53 on March 08, 2009, 10:10:14 pm
:P
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Filx on March 08, 2009, 10:15:32 pm
Awesome stuff Jem - I'm looking forward ot this one. What's the intercooler situation on a 200 Like? Maybe look at upgrading that at the same time? An old Legacy RS or Celica GT4 water to air set up can be had at wreckers for next to nothing and could be a nice subtle swap.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Pushbutton_auto on March 08, 2009, 10:45:53 pm

Might be able to keep up with the Exclusive then   .....    :laugh:
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 09, 2009, 08:33:55 am
Hmmm now you have me thinking Flix...... do they reaally make that much difference? it has a intercooler but not very big and they can often leak tho my one has been tested and dosent. I dont want an ugly front mount but if it was subtle enough. They do look really good lowered and maybe with a front mount i could end up with quite a beast.
 I have also a moded ECU that Rex did for me that i removed as it made it pink quite badly on anything other than mobil 98. I will refit it and just run 98 but take the other ECU if i go on a big drive and cant get the stuff.
 
 A 200 with a K24 really is a nice drive. With a K26.........awful really, so much lag.
 I look forward to doing this as it is really just me getting to finally use some of the bits I have in a good way.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Bullseye on March 09, 2009, 08:50:43 am
Hmmm now you have me thinking Flix...... do they reaally make that much difference? it has a intercooler but not very big and they can often leak tho my one has been tested and dosent. I dont want an ugly front mount but if it was subtle enough. They do look really good lowered and maybe with a front mount i could end up with quite a beast.

Sounds cool Jeremy, just paint the i/c black it will be hard to spot on that much front  ;)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: typ53 on March 09, 2009, 08:53:22 am
It will be good to see the old, gold girl back in regular usage BB.  It was looking good at Ellerslie.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Spinner on March 09, 2009, 08:59:19 am
They do look really good lowered and maybe with a front mount i could end up with quite a beast.
 


gawd please don't "wigga-fy" that thing!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 09, 2009, 09:13:32 am
22'' chromes here I come.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: 1.8t on March 10, 2009, 10:38:02 am
 ;D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Spinner on March 10, 2009, 11:01:30 am
need one of these!!!!!

http://www.mytopclip.com/play.php?vid=1795
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: typ53 on March 10, 2009, 01:44:21 pm
Yep, and a drain-pipe sized exhaust mounted with super-heavy-duty springs.  That way when you're parked outside Spinner's house it will send him into orbit when he jumps on it.  :P
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: GlenT on March 13, 2009, 02:00:07 pm
need one of these!!!!!

http://www.mytopclip.com/play.php?vid=1795
Haha, that's pretty good.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 20, 2009, 08:27:56 pm
Well i got the K24 rebuilt with new seals and bearings and all bead blasted etc ;D It looks and feels like new now spins very smooth and has absolutely no movement!
 I will put the engine up on the engine stand tomorow and start ripping it down to see what sort of shape its in ;) Im pretty much just thinking valve guide seals a reface and new gaskets all round with all new seals and everything cleaned and checked. It went well and Ive got little money. I have a head gasket already so i only really need to buy the valves seals and the shop will just have some i recon.
 
 I cant wait, a K24 make such a good car out of a 200. with the K26 they are annoying to drive.
 I might try and fit the head lining in properly as well and sort thee sun roof as I have new slide thingys for it that arn't broken like most.
 Theres not many 200tqs out there any more and I do get quite fond of it. Wish i could park it off the st :P
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: qta4 on March 20, 2009, 08:34:37 pm
Is your old 200 K-Jet Jeremy, i suppose changing the turbo isnt such a problem if it ism as the flap just rises more and gives more fuel, and the retard on boost just happens,

You will have 2 Magic engines soon ;D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: 5-pot on March 21, 2009, 10:06:27 am
Hey Jem, what are you doing with your old k26?  I think I might need a spare...
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 21, 2009, 10:16:47 am
Yes it k-jet  turbo is a turbo works the same just earlier.
 I will sell you my old K26 5pot if you want it for pickapart price which is about $80 I think. I have two.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 23, 2009, 08:33:50 am
Well the turbo just bolts on but the hoses need some mods to fit. its gona be bitchin.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 23, 2009, 08:18:29 pm
All the hose mods will be easy enough.
 I am missing two of the clamp things from around the k24s cold side that hold it together. I can make some up from other ones he has tho cut and weld them to right shape if hemihead hasn't got them.
 Cost $500 to rebuild the turbo :P Which is cheap. New genuine kit plus shaft balanced and 4 hours to do the work including bead blasting it all up like new. A new K24 from Germany is over $4000 his cost.
 It feels absolutely mint now no shaft movement at all, it will just hum.
 Its something I always wanted to do but never thought I would ever find a K24.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Filx on March 23, 2009, 09:56:14 pm
Looks nice Jem - $500 for a turbo recon is great value.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on March 23, 2009, 09:58:20 pm
Should haul ass when done, that 100t in wellington only went for $300, I drove it and the motor and trans was mint, only had done 110k, only if I had the space ::)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 24, 2009, 08:27:22 am
 The autos go well in the 100s and 200s you just stomp them and they lift up and take off! the 100 you drove will be a K26 tho nutter and you just cant believe how much better a K24 is. They feel like a reallly quick car with one. I had a mate help me move Rex old Avant with a k24 and he just thought it was crazy to have a car that had so much urge. Lagbegone!
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Horch on April 05, 2009, 11:15:22 pm
turbo water coolant plumbing?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on April 06, 2009, 08:26:07 am
turbo water coolant plumbing?

 Er yes...... there is water cooling to these turbos.
 Not much action here to damn busy working and then being to lazy or sick of cars.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on April 19, 2009, 07:10:57 pm
I have fitted all the hoses and hard ware to the turbo now and then removed it again and the head.
 the head is at the shop and it looks so good I think it will only need guide seals :)
 I do really want to hone it and re ring it tho. I think this can really bring back the best of a ageing motor. I will want to do the big end bearings to then but depends on price.
 I rang Simon at Giltraps and rings are NLA :P I'm sure I can get some after market tho, will leave that up to my engine guys to find.
 Hopefully this will bring the old 200 alive in the same way my golf has got me so happy.
 As said I have driven a K24 200 and it was so much better than standard.
 I will refit the modded ecu that dosen't cut out the fuel pump at 6psi boost! Rex modded it for me but it made my car pink unless I had mobil 98 and I use it where I cant always get that.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on May 04, 2009, 07:34:48 pm
Head done, reface, strip, vac test, all new guide seals, cleaned and checked straight through the cam tunnel and hardness etc.
 $220 :) Im happy with that it looks mint.
 I have also got new rings for it. Expencive :P $450 but it will be worth it in the long run, its done 168thou and a new set of rings will restore good compression.
 I have stripped down the long block trying hard not to ruin any gaskets as I don't want to have to pay for anything more :P
 The big ends look fine, tho I will price some.
 loads of bits of steel to clean and paint, rocker covers sumps cam gaurds etc, i think i will bother too paint this engine all up and have it looking real nice.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: qta4 on May 04, 2009, 08:19:51 pm
Im really surprised any VAG engine requires rings at such an early age Jeremy, but good to see the old girl heading for another 168 thousand k's. Good tow vehicle ..
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on May 04, 2009, 08:32:55 pm
It ran fine but the bores were smooth and getting a slight glaze. A hone and new rings will see it into the ends of time ;D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on June 06, 2009, 10:26:43 am
Well got all the bits back except new head bolts on order.
 Cost me $940 to get the block, pistons etc all cleaned and honed and assembled. $450 of that was the cost of the rings :P
 It looks great and I fitted the oil pump and pick up and sump last night out in my man shed.
 I love doing nice clean work like this.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on June 06, 2009, 10:27:35 am
pics
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on June 06, 2009, 10:32:53 am
Im trying to put up pics but it says this ???
 The attachments upload directory is not writable. Your attachment or avatar cannot be saved.
 Why is it doing this? the pics are smaller than 120kb?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: rambo_005 on June 06, 2009, 11:30:22 am
I'm not sure what the problem is... have you got a photobucket account Jem?

They are very handy for putting all your photos up on :)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: GlenT on June 11, 2009, 03:52:57 pm
I've been having the same problem when trying to post pics for the last few weeks.
I thought it was since I loaded Ubuntu, but others are having problems too.
I even signed up with a Photobucket account and did it that way, but with the same result.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 23, 2009, 08:09:51 pm
Got the engine out of the 200, new one about to go in.
 Will sand all discs and pop all calipers apart and clean them and reasemble with good fluid.
 will get a new engine mount made from autoalighn.
 fit a better AC compressor and get it regassed.
 Hopefully I can suss out the reason why the ABS wont work as well. Would like to replace the wheel sensors but where do you get stuff like that :P I'd Love a new bomb as well.
 Its gona be good to get it all up and running sweet tho, it needed this.
 the clutch was getting all covered in oil but looks almost new and wasnt slipping at all, i will wash it down and get the flywheel refaced as i can see its only running on the outer edge! its a new sach clutch thats only done 5000kms or so.
 My exhaust gasket was all blown open as well.
 wish the photos would work.
 maaybe i go join photo bucket now.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 23, 2009, 08:11:12 pm
Hey it worked without bucket :)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 23, 2009, 08:12:48 pm
more The turbo was just being fitted up and then i stripped down and re did that motor, Another KG.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 23, 2009, 08:13:58 pm
wee
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 23, 2009, 08:15:07 pm
So much better with pics
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 23, 2009, 08:16:19 pm
so clean and nice
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on August 23, 2009, 10:10:15 pm
Nice work, wouldnt the abs sensors be the same as in the 80 and later 100?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: GlenT on August 24, 2009, 08:06:09 am
Have you got shares in a gasket goo company Jem?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 24, 2009, 08:12:56 am
Have you got shares in a gasket goo company Jem?

 Its not as bad as it looks Glen I am actually very careful with the goo, don't want it getting into the oil gallery now do we.
 
 And nutter yes quite possibly they are. You got any? I will ask Simon at giltraps and see what they have and prices
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on August 24, 2009, 10:27:59 am
No I dont have any, my 80 is the only car Ive had with abs, I try and avoid if I can
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 24, 2009, 11:05:55 am
ABS is good in a big 200.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Spinner on August 24, 2009, 12:19:37 pm
just use ya gears!!!

trucks dont have it.....
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on August 24, 2009, 01:48:17 pm
I avoid it on older cars a its one less thing to go wrong :P And airbags, damning airbag light is on now >:(
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on August 24, 2009, 10:44:06 pm
This guy sells brake bombs for 125 euros

http://sites.internet.lu/folders/customautocraft/type44_100_200_v8.htm#BRAKES
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 26, 2009, 08:49:54 pm
Damn. I have to swap my cranks over.
 
 An auto crank is different than a manual crank :P

  Why would they go do a dumb thing like that.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on August 26, 2009, 08:55:17 pm
How is it different? I thought that when I used a motor from and auto, it had a bush in the end, pull that out and put in the roller bearing
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 26, 2009, 09:06:57 pm
Yes 5-pot is saying this as well. I will have another look tomorrow.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Pushbutton_auto on August 26, 2009, 09:33:51 pm

Engine is completely separate from the box, they are designed to be separate units.

ie, the Engine is NOT made for the box.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 27, 2009, 07:25:42 am
Yes guys I am a mechanic, i was very surprised to and did look at a possible bush that would swap over.
 And i think yay that there is a bush you swap over tho i think the input bearing my break up gettig pulled out.
 I do have another one ....hope i can find it.
 So glad I don't have to swap the cranks ;)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on August 27, 2009, 07:44:35 am
Dont bother pulling the old bearing, get a new one
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: 5-pot on August 27, 2009, 09:25:11 am
I don't think it's a bush that you swap over eh...  You yank the bush outta the crank and there's a pilot bearing in the flywheel for the gearbox input shaft.  But I think  you already knew that :D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 27, 2009, 09:38:22 am
It is a bush and its in the crank not the flywheel.
 In the auto engine there is a big steel bush, in the manual engine there is a removable bush with a spigot bearing in it.
 I have to swap the bush and spigot over but as nutter says I will replace the spigot roller bearing.
 i have a spigot bearing ....just gotta find it now :P
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: 5-pot on August 27, 2009, 10:00:52 am
Ohhhh ok.  on the KV motor there's a bearing in the flywheel not the crank shaft.  Nevermind! :)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 27, 2009, 03:35:35 pm
Yep there often is the bearing in the flywheel ;)
 Well I got it out by getting a bit of metal lathed down to fit exactly and putting grease in and hammering it out and then i found that it stepped down and the hole was just the right size for me to hammer the new bearing I had in their so its all go.
 I have the flywheel and clutch on and found a new engine mount and so on, all looking good and so good to be able to use all this stuff I have collected over the years.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Pushbutton_auto on August 27, 2009, 04:00:42 pm

 You working on it tonight or in the morning ?

 might pop over and lean on a shovel  ...  8)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 27, 2009, 04:17:25 pm
on and off all day. mostly just fluffin around.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 27, 2009, 09:13:23 pm
Good fluffin.
 Engine in and bolted up.
 Exhaust almost done up. Should have it running tomorow.
 Will take some more photos.
 pop over PBA.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 28, 2009, 03:46:54 pm
Sorry PBA and Simon who came to visit and help today :P I had ANOTHER migraine! That's 3 Fridays in a row now. :'( :'(
 Only just getting better now an its 4 pm nearly. Feel like crap.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 31, 2009, 07:26:37 am
Car is going. Its nice and smooth and goes well pulls about 7psi of boost as well when it only just got to about 4.5 before.
 But its not quite as good as I thought it would be :P As in its no where near as good as Rex old 200 avant with a k24 was but maybe i still have a boost leak as his made 9psi.
 I do have a modded ECU that I will fit today and see if that makes it better ;)
 Only other thing is there is a slight scraping sound that could just be the fan belts but kinda sounds like its in the clutch area, i hope its not the thrust bearing as i did have to spray engine degreaser and water into the bell housing I hoe I haven't degreased the bearing to much tho I did try to not do that.
 I will strip the belts off the front and run it to see.
 And then maybe check its not the sensors scrubbing very slightly.
 Im happy tho, its going good.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: OOOO on August 31, 2009, 09:01:40 am
Have you got the standard spring in the wastegate Jem?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on August 31, 2009, 12:34:43 pm
Yes. I think that may be the difference ;) Thanks Scott.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 01, 2009, 07:51:09 pm
Did some good stuff today.
 Found out that the G60 calipers take a slightly different disc than the other single pot calipers and that the pad was not touching on about the bottom 7mm, making a big groove and breaking up the pad a bit.
 I have ordered the correct rotors from Partmaster for around $100 each.
 I have also run tests and found there is nothing wrong with the telemetic fuel pump relay system, I just have the wrong fuel pump relay.
 I can get another from Giltrap for about $70 so will do that soon.
 I have swapped the waste gate tops as the other one has had the glue removed and i have wound it down as far as I can. Will see how it goes when I get the brakes back together. I want around 9psi.
 I have also fitted the modify ECU I have, I think the timing is advanced with this mod and also the boost cut out raised or deleted.
 
 I have some very good 2nd hand pads I will fit,I got em from a car at pickapart for $12 the set after just paying over $100 for a set the day before.

 So all I have to do now is fix the damn ABS. Has anyone got any wheel sensors for the older 100s and 200s? Wilco?
 
 Plus I got the wires on the wrong way around for the speedo transponder and I think I'
ve cooked the speedo gauge in the dash :-\ I hope its the dash as the transponders are like hens teeth, tho Spinner has one with a stripped drive.
 the rev counter dont work eitheer but i know how to test it and i think its the gauge
 I got some other dashes to swap out and see what works.
 Then I just gotta finish the headlining and put the new sunroof rails in i got.
 Then fix the door locks the damn kids wrecked.
 Then get a few scrapes and scratches and clear coat fixed up.
 Sew the leather seats back up where they have seperated.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: John Stone on September 01, 2009, 08:37:02 pm
Did some good stuff today.
  I have swapped the waste gate tops as the other one has had the glue removed and i have wound it down as far as I can. Will see how it goes when I get the brakes back together. I want around 9psi.
 I have also fitted the modify ECU I have, I think the timing is advanced with this mod and also the boost cut out raised or deleted.

Nnnnnnoooooo - you'll cook a piston Jem. Put a pressure gauge in line in the inlet manifold to top of wastegate hose to see what boost you're getting, then wind in the spring.

John
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 01, 2009, 09:26:32 pm
I've got a boost gauge. I very much doubt I will even get 9psi and I'm sure it can cope with that.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: John Stone on September 02, 2009, 06:58:57 am
I've got a boost gauge. I very much doubt I will even get 9psi and I'm sure it can cope with that.
You should get close to 9psi without resorting to winding in the spring. It really sounds like there is a downstream issue here. what happens when you pull out the dipstick, or take off the oil filler cap? It should run like a hairy dog, or even stall if you have no air leaks in the system. If there is no change to the idle, there can only be an air leak in the inlet system.

John
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: wilco on September 02, 2009, 08:09:44 am
So all I have to do now is fix the damn ABS. Has anyone got any wheel sensors for the older 100s and 200s? Wilco?


Sorry Jem, none spefically from those, however I have loads from the 80/90 B3/B4 era.  Are they the same?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 02, 2009, 08:25:41 am
Do they just push in or are they held by a allen bolt?
 I will post up a pic.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on September 02, 2009, 08:26:45 am
b3/4 ones push in
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 02, 2009, 08:29:06 am
You should get close to 9psi without resorting to winding in the spring. It really sounds like there is a downstream issue here. what happens when you pull out the dipstick, or take off the oil filler cap? It should run like a hairy dog, or even stall if you have no air leaks in the system. If there is no change to the idle, there can only be an air leak in the inlet system.

John

 Im pretty sure you need to wind the spring to get to 9psi John. Rex did. They are 6psi standard and the ecu cuts out at that unless its modded.
 The car runs pretty good and smooth, i dont think there is any leaks. i will try the dip stick and cap but I didn't think they were quite such a sealed motor? Does yours run bad if you pull the dip stick?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: John Stone on September 02, 2009, 08:50:32 am
Im pretty sure you need to wind the spring to get to 9psi John. Rex did. They are 6psi standard and the ecu cuts out at that unless its modded.
 The car runs pretty good and smooth, i dont think there is any leaks. i will try the dip stick and cap but I didn't think they were quite such a sealed motor? Does yours run bad if you pull the dip stick?
You could be right about the spring but I always thought the KG/WR motors were the same except the KG didn't have the i/cooler?
Never really looked at the plumbing on a 200 though.
To get proper enrichment/boost the induction side must be airtight.
Mine stumbles if I pull the dipstick and often stalls if I remove the oil filler cap, yours should too.

John
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 02, 2009, 08:57:15 am
Hmmm I will check the air tightness.
 The KG has a IC. I have had it all checked and if it pushes 7psi then I think it must be leak free. I have had it tested. but they do leak often.
 my intake system is pretty good tho I have the best of three cars I have wrecked.
 
 Nice to have you on here John :) Always a pleasure.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on September 02, 2009, 10:26:51 am
Go efi and start boosting more, would be an awesome sleeper >:D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 02, 2009, 01:03:51 pm
Thanks Nutter ::)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: OOOO on September 02, 2009, 01:08:18 pm
You should get close to 9psi without resorting to winding in the spring. It really sounds like there is a downstream issue here. what happens when you pull out the dipstick, or take off the oil filler cap? It should run like a hairy dog, or even stall if you have no air leaks in the system. If there is no change to the idle, there can only be an air leak in the inlet system.

John

John's right Jem. You should be able to get up to 9psi without winding the spring. A combination of ECU mod and spring adjustment will get you above 9. It took me a year with the Exclusiv before getting proper boost. After checking all the air intake stuff for leaks it ended up being an oil rebreather hose discovered by accident.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 02, 2009, 07:09:08 pm
I have all the oil breather hoses in pretty good nick.
 I will see what happens with the modded ecu I haven't tried it yet.
 I remember it pinked like crazy when I had it on holiday once and I could only get 95 gas :P
 I have got the new discs now ;)
 Lovely Brembos.
 Oh man its going to be so good tohave the brakes sorted, they were really bad.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: John Stone on September 02, 2009, 07:21:23 pm
Jem, have you done stumble test?
If it was pinking as badly as you say, the a/f ratio must have been horrible.

John
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 02, 2009, 08:12:14 pm
It was only pinking that bad with the modded ECU. Its not so bad on the standard one, plus I only ever use 98.
 If I go on holiday in it again I will fit the standard ECU.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 05, 2009, 07:17:41 pm
Well I'm happy! The brakes are now amazing compared to what they were! You cannot imagine how much the wrong discs make it shudder.
 The standard 200tq discs are 280x22 the ones with G60 calipers (I got my G60s from pickapart, and didn't notice the disc difference....I think I might have been told they bolt straight on as well which they do but you do need new discs as well) are 276x25.
 I got 2 Brembos from Partmaster for bout $110 each.

  It wont boost any higher than 7psi still but its a far better drive, boosts way lower and it makes the car smoother to drive tho it does actually take away the big rush more than I thought it would :-\ It is better tho.
 Its running very smooth.
 Oh yea I undid the oil filer cap and the car just instantly stalls! So that must mean its a pretty good seal eh? And if I pull the dip stick it stumbles a bit like you say.

 I also sussed that I need a new fuel pump relay and I will have the telemetric cut out system working again as they have a special fuel pump relay that has the 5th pin on the opposite side.

 Abs,speedo,rev counter,sunroof,wheel align and thats about all it needs.
 
 I wouldn't mind lowering it, wonder who has any springs? SHould I just cut some spare ones? I'm a bit sick of spending on it now.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: John Stone on September 06, 2009, 06:14:23 am
 ;) ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D ;) ;D

John
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 13, 2009, 03:34:12 pm
Sum more pics now I'm rocking the bucket.

 (http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu86/jellymeat/DSC00854.jpg)
 (http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu86/jellymeat/DSC00855.jpg)
 (http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu86/jellymeat/DSC00856.jpg)
 (http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu86/jellymeat/DSC00857.jpg)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 13, 2009, 03:52:35 pm
Few more bits of old car.
 (http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu86/jellymeat/DSC00714.jpg)

 This was when i was fitting up the new turbo and cutting and shortening the hoses etc.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 16, 2009, 12:50:18 pm
News is i have blown my damn speedo transponder >:( im so pissed ive done this as they are a very very very rare part.
 
 I wish Portmanatu hadn't got upset but then i did ask him for one and he never got back so who knows.

 If anybody knows where i can get one its would be greatly apreciated.
 Rob from euroline will go through his pile to see if anything else will match.
 i will put up the part number soon.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on September 16, 2009, 01:07:41 pm
What year is it? Ill have a look on etka and see what else uses the same part
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on September 16, 2009, 01:19:28 pm
If its a 88-91 it has the same distance sensor as alot of other models, 100q, c4 100, 80q, a4

$12.95 at autohaus
http://www.autohausaz.com/search/product.aspx?sid=i4w0slbnn5gfjo45oo5fri45&partnumber=012409191D

(http://www.autohausaz.com/secure/PartImages/012409191D.jpg)

Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: RS ZWEI on September 16, 2009, 01:47:16 pm
News is i have blown my damn speedo transponder >:( im so pissed ive done this as they are a very very very rare part.
 
 I wish Portmanatu hadn't got upset but then i did ask him for one and he never got back so who knows.

 If anybody knows where i can get one its would be greatly apreciated.
 Rob from euroline will go through his pile to see if anything else will match.
 i will put up the part number soon.

This is Portmanatu TM account, ask him :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Audi/auction-242084111.htm
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: HaNs on September 16, 2009, 05:48:55 pm
This is Portmanatu TM account, ask him :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Car-parts-accessories/Audi/auction-242084111.htm


Iv got his email also
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 16, 2009, 05:56:12 pm
Thanks guys :) Vask is cool.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: RS ZWEI on September 16, 2009, 05:58:55 pm
Iv got his email also

As do I.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on September 16, 2009, 06:01:24 pm
He will reply to your pm's aswell
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on September 17, 2009, 01:53:10 pm
News is i have blown my damn speedo transponder >:( im so pissed ive done this as they are a very very very rare part.
 
 I wish Portmanatu hadn't got upset but then i did ask him for one and he never got back so who knows.

 If anybody knows where i can get one its would be greatly apreciated.
 Rob from euroline will go through his pile to see if anything else will match.
 i will put up the part number soon.

Did you get the part#?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 21, 2009, 05:29:40 pm
Well I got my dash back from Steve at speedo repairs. He swapped out the MAF gauge that had burst its LCD, and he got the rev counter reliable I hope and fitted a speedo that not only went it also counts milage. And its all working :)
 But the transponder was blown. Bummer but he recons a mate of his can fix it for around a hundy so i will see if that gets done.
 in the mean time i have borrowed Spinners and its working like a charm. So nice to see these things work at the end of a job like this.
 Will get a wof tomorow.

 Car is now a far far better drive and the difference in the brakes is just amazing, they are actually pretty damn good.
 
 Now all I wanna do is go boost it down the motorway but I can only go 100kph :P How boring is NZ I wish we had an autobahn somewhere.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: qta4 on September 21, 2009, 07:19:32 pm
Easily fixed Jeremy, just export your trusty old 200 to Germany and do it. >:D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on September 28, 2009, 09:23:13 pm
Well the speedo guys mate fixed the transponder for $100. So that's good.
 So I can give back spinners one. he has a stripped gear on his but i am going to take it to the model engineering exhibition on the weekend 2nd 3rd and 4th at the Wiapuna hotel in mt wellington and see if some old lathe dude will make us another one.
 i have worked out the best way would be to lathe the old teeth smmoth and then make a new gear bit that could be slid over the old area and glued into place. Im sure it will be able to be done and will cost $100 which is well worth it.

 Really if you try and think outside the square you can fix just about anything on a car.

 I'm all legal now and its going lovely I just need to find a money earning reason to go to Wellington so i can have a nice long drive in the darling.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 06, 2010, 11:52:13 am
Well mostly good news I have had the AC regassed (with the newer compressor fitted when I did the engine) and its working very well, nice and quiet.
 It had a leak when I first tryed to fill it on a alloy connection hose at a point where there was a locating tag on the alloy hose. I simply cleaned it up with part cleaner and put a big gob of Kneed it around it all and the AC guy was very impressed with such a easy repair that still held all his pressure in. This stuff is great and as long as your not yanking away on it like John Stones gear stick then it will last....its held Heathers gas in her fuel tank for 6 years now 8).
 Anyway its so nice to have a cold car as the audi 100/200s are pretty good at letting sun in.

 Bummers are that the rev counter is still intermittent at best, and the new trip computer screen has leaked again as well >:( Tho its not so bad and can still be read. I hate dash problems tho as they are staring you in the face every time you drive.

 All in all tho with the new brakes and engine and head lineing and tyres and AC and clutch and tie rods and battery and shocks and steering wheel and PS pump I think I mite be good for a few drives. :)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: wilco on March 09, 2010, 03:18:41 pm
How long has Heather been holding gas??  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 09, 2010, 04:29:47 pm
Cant you read Wilco? 6 years I said.
 
 Well at least I know one person is in here that cares about my old 200.
 Thanks Wilco even if your idea of humor is a little wonky :)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: John Stone on March 09, 2010, 06:55:14 pm
put a big gob of Kneed it around it all and the AC guy was very impressed with such a easy repair that still held all his pressure in. This stuff is great and as long as your not yanking away on it like John Stones gear stick then it will last....

Oi, I'm not yanking on anything Jem  :o

John
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: vag_nutter on March 09, 2010, 07:04:54 pm
Carjam says its only done 407,000km,
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on March 09, 2010, 07:39:28 pm
Oi, I'm not yanking on anything Jem  :o

John

 :-X :-* I didnt mean it personally John :D But just that a gear stick is an area that gets yanked on, so it may only last a certain amount of time :) But its still a fantastic repair ;D ;D :D :D
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Benni.B on July 07, 2010, 07:54:48 pm
hay bb great job with the car hope fully mine will be getting the same treatment next year

just a question my 200 has power steering but it feels sooooo heavy

itl be fine when im cruzing,going round roundabouts and stuff but when i put the clutch in and the revs drop the dam thing gets soo heavy to turn

sory to jack your thread but you seem knowledgable when it comes to 200s

Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Pushbutton_auto on July 07, 2010, 11:19:34 pm

More power assisted than full power steering ...

Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on July 08, 2010, 07:06:00 am
Either your belt is slipping or your pump is faulty. Make sure the fluid is full the pumps leak like mad.
 They are not as light as some PS systems but they are not heavy you have a problem.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on February 14, 2012, 07:32:58 pm
Well after my 200 stopped at the Platinum drags I have finally found out what it was in the process of wrecking it.
 It was the crank angle pin at the back of the flywheel :P Must have been damaged when I fitted it all in :'( :'( :'(
 Oh well in the end I am happy as I have decided to press on with the Avant which has nicer seats, is an avant and the dash all works and hey it goes!
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: maxmax on February 14, 2012, 09:51:36 pm
Ah, I just wandered through the whole thread only to find it's been wrecked, what a shame! Do you have a photo of the whole car? I need to see the body for closure!
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: slowburn on February 14, 2012, 11:20:01 pm
 Hi Jem , you may have some bits I need to get the Ooze running legal again please? I'll get the list outta her tomorrow.... and PM you if that was okay?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on February 15, 2012, 09:42:59 am
Sure thing, if I can help slowmo. I don't want to sell things like front indicator lenses tho but you could just borrow some bits to get a wof. Naughty.
 
 I was driving last night and my mate pointed at my diff locks and said what is that so I turned them on :P
 I tried to switch them off again but the center one kept staying on and I was trying to find a park around the back streets of Parnell :P :P
 It was making an awful noise, I think the center diff is rooted and/or the drive shafts twist so much they rub the exhaust. It felt like it was wanting to dump the whole drive train on the ground.
 In the end I took thee dogs for a walk and then reversed into a driveway to turn around and hey presto the diff unlocked and it was all fine again.
 I will be fitting the whole lot from my other car tho, which is in better condition.
 Whole pile of work again :-[
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: rambo_005 on February 15, 2012, 07:48:56 pm
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Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on February 15, 2012, 07:50:32 pm
Nice pic ;)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: 00quattro00 on February 15, 2012, 09:07:57 pm
Sure thing, if I can help slowmo. I don't want to sell things like front indicator lenses tho but you could just borrow some bits to get a wof. Naughty.
 
 I was driving last night and my mate pointed at my diff locks and said what is that so I turned them on :P
 I tried to switch them off again but the center one kept staying on and I was trying to find a park around the back streets of Parnell :P :P
 It was making an awful noise, I think the center diff is rooted and/or the drive shafts twist so much they rub the exhaust. It felt like it was wanting to dump the whole drive train on the ground.
 In the end I took thee dogs for a walk and then reversed into a driveway to turn around and hey presto the diff unlocked and it was all fine again.
 I will be fitting the whole lot from my other car tho, which is in better condition.
 Whole pile of work again :-[

You need to drive straight for a bit for it to dissengage
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on February 15, 2012, 09:47:04 pm
Yea not that easy in this situation. I was dumb to turn it on. Sure does lock them.
 I think they also get sticky and the plastic vacume pots can fail also and work only one way
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: 5-pot on February 16, 2012, 01:02:50 pm
I found reversing the car helps to unlock the diffs in my old Cq and the truck that we have at home... 
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on February 16, 2012, 02:52:45 pm
Yup 5pot thats what dun it in the end ;)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Pushbutton_auto on February 20, 2012, 05:40:13 pm
 :(
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on February 21, 2012, 09:07:02 am
RIP sedan 8)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: Pushbutton_auto on February 21, 2012, 02:24:29 pm
and arise Sir Avant.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: slowburn on February 21, 2012, 02:31:00 pm
nice one,is that you in the avant?!!! goodcrap,fast?
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: spooln on February 21, 2012, 03:08:46 pm
Nice on. Almost spare everything.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on February 21, 2012, 07:29:10 pm
I wore my best shirt for that photo.
 God I look like Worzel Gummage :P
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: slowburn on February 21, 2012, 07:36:02 pm
Gummage!!!
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: qta4 on February 21, 2012, 07:46:31 pm
regardless which shirt, you just look like yourself Jeremy.
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: johnp on February 22, 2012, 05:16:32 pm
I wore my best shirt for that photo.
 God I look like Worzel Gummage :P

I was wondering where you were hiding the banjo....ding, dingaling, ding, ding.......
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on February 22, 2012, 07:43:05 pm
regardless which shirt, you just look like yourself Jeremy.

 Knee deep in old VAG rubbish and filth. :)
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: 00quattro00 on February 22, 2012, 07:44:08 pm
What else are you taking from it? Keen on the hubs
Title: Re: Up grading my 200.
Post by: BB on February 22, 2012, 07:45:02 pm
Keeping all the suspension.