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AUDI => A4 - S4 - RS 4 - A5 - S5 - RS 5 => Topic started by: le mans on March 21, 2016, 02:28:56 pm

Title: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 21, 2016, 02:28:56 pm
Prompted by Ash, Iím going to put together a little history of my RS4 like I have for my RS2.

I bought it in November 2007 from CCS with 47,222km (according to carjam records).


(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20071124_RS4_005_sml.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20071124_RS4_005_sml.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 21, 2016, 02:29:46 pm
Jan 2008
Getting it dusty on a drive to Tauranga:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20080112_Tauranga%20trip_002.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20080112_Tauranga%20trip_002.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 21, 2016, 02:30:46 pm
May 2008
Old Te Aroha Rd:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20080515_Te%20Aroha_011.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20080515_Te%20Aroha_011.jpg.html)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20080515_Te%20Aroha_019.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20080515_Te%20Aroha_019.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 21, 2016, 02:34:13 pm
Oct 2008
After owning a rather special B5 1.8TQ for a number of years, I was very impressed with the RS4s engine, but quite underwhelmed by the chassis. So after some research I bought a set of these from the US. They werenít hugely expensive at the time but they go for around 700USD these days:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/Hsport1.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/Hsport1.jpg.html)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/Hsport2.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/Hsport2.jpg.html)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/Hsport5.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/Hsport5.jpg.html)

I have to say it made a massive difference to the roll control and general sharpness of the steering and handling.

Around this time I had the car remapped for the first time. This made it rather more rapid, more due to torque rather than max power.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 21, 2016, 02:35:13 pm
Nov 2008

I drove it like I stole it. My first ever track day (organised by Greg Spark aka Audidude): https://youtu.be/CjUikDxyV5c (https://youtu.be/CjUikDxyV5c)

Yes sacrilege I know to take a nice car on the track and yes no one will want to bye it off me (I'm keeping it forever anyway), but man lots of fun and you learn so much about driving and car control. And i figure if the car doesnít break on the track it wonít break anywhere. Plausible?
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 21, 2016, 02:38:47 pm
Dec 2008
Car on the dyno at the Torque Performance VASK dyno day that I organised:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20081206_Dyno%20Day_029.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20081206_Dyno%20Day_029.jpg.html)

They were concerned it wasnít going open loop fuelling at WOT. The factory tune uses closed loop fuel and exhaust temp (EGT) sensors as protection against excessive temps (high temp triggers richer mixtures). Anyway, with a mapped car itís prudent to run the mixtures richer at WOT to keep the temps down. This is what prompted me to later put the car back to the standard tune.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 21, 2016, 02:40:11 pm
Jan 2009
Gordon from final touch did a great job making it shiny:
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/IMG_2505s.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/IMG_2505s.jpg.html)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/IMG_2503s.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/IMG_2503s.jpg.html)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/IMG_2511s.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/IMG_2511s.jpg.html)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/IMG_2512s.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/IMG_2512s.jpg.html)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/IMG_2515s.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/IMG_2515s.jpg.html)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/IMG_2514s.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/IMG_2514s.jpg.html)
(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/IMG_2509s.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/IMG_2509s.jpg.html)

Thatís it for now. I will look at adding a few more posts over the next day or three.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: RS ZWEI on March 21, 2016, 08:59:14 pm
Jon, do you still have the B5 Le Mans?
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 22, 2016, 12:05:24 pm
Jon, do you still have the B5 Le Mans?
Yes indeed, still going strong and about to click over 170km. It's our family car these days.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/IMG_3851.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/IMG_3851.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: RS ZWEI on March 22, 2016, 01:43:33 pm
Yes indeed, still going strong and about to click over 170km. It's our family car these days.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/IMG_3851.jpg) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/IMG_3851.jpg.html)

Cool. Like the new carport.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 22, 2016, 03:02:00 pm
Mar 2009
Bought and installed this along with brand new factory RS4 clutch.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20090302_Fidanza%20flywheel_001%201.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20090302_Fidanza%20flywheel_001%201.jpg.html)

Pluses: Engine more free revving, able to blip the throttle on down shifts, direct torque feedback from the powertrain, easier to achieve smooth gear shifts.
Minuses: lose some rotational inertia at low engine speeds (not really an issue with the V6), lack of vibration damping at low engine speeds when under load.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 22, 2016, 03:03:39 pm
Jun 2009
Torque Performance offered me a free run on their dyno. This is still with the previously remapped ECU. You can see how the fuelling stays close to lambda=1 throughout the run. I stress this is exactly what the factory tune does as well, but many tuners prefer to go open loop and run richer at WOT to keep things cooler. More on this later. I think itís OK for stage 1, but probably not ideal. Depends who you talk to I guess.

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/RS4dynodi.gif~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/RS4dynodi.gif.html)

Here is a quote from page 45 of the 2.7TT Self Study Guide:
Quote
The Motronic controls the exhaust gas temperature to 980 įC by enriching the air/fuel mixture .
It is therefore possible to largely dispense with the prophylactic enrichment process that has been standard practice until now.
The mixture is only enriched...

... when necessary and
... to the extent necessary.
This means that engine operation with lambda = 1 is possible up to high load and engine speed ranges.

Advantage:

ē Improved efficiency and reduction of fuel consumption as well as exhaust emissions

So basically itís an efficiency/emissions driven ideology. You can read the full study guide here if you want to: http://www.ibiblio.org/tkan/audi/2.7Biturbo-SelfStudy.pdf (http://www.ibiblio.org/tkan/audi/2.7Biturbo-SelfStudy.pdf)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 22, 2016, 03:08:11 pm
Oct 2009

Bought at installed a JHM SS kit:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20091006_JHM%20install_016.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20091006_JHM%20install_016.jpg.html)

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20091006_JHM%20install_017.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20091006_JHM%20install_017.jpg.html)

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20091006_JHM%20install_022.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20091006_JHM%20install_022.jpg.html)

Makes the gear changes much tighter. Then tested the shifter and took a quick couple of photos:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20091006_Tank%20Farm%20at%20twilight_005.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20091006_Tank%20Farm%20at%20twilight_005.jpg.html)

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20091006_Tank%20Farm%20at%20twilight_011.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20091006_Tank%20Farm%20at%20twilight_011.jpg.html)

North Shore @ dusk:

(http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w257/jon_henderson/Audi/20091030_Cityscape_002web.jpg~original) (http://s178.photobucket.com/user/jon_henderson/media/Audi/20091030_Cityscape_002web.jpg.html)

I also had the ECU returned to factory tune.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 22, 2016, 03:10:02 pm
Jan 2010

Took delivery of Bilstein B16 PSS9 adjustable suspension. At the time widely regarded as the best bang for buck suspension kit available for the B5.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4324/35797961601_4d0d94ef04_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WxkUNv)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: Poonmobile on March 23, 2016, 01:10:38 am
Nice Jon, this reads as a wish list for any B5 Rs4 owner!
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 23, 2016, 01:55:16 pm
Dec 2010

Cat-back Supersprint exhaust from Italy. A bit $$$!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4325/35548107040_0889bc5042_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WagkKf)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4286/35766412382_ebce46e69f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Wuydjs)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4298/35766399992_88aa0f4e4e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Wuy9CQ)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 23, 2016, 01:57:54 pm
Jan 2011

Bought a RaceDiagnostics Liquid Multi-Gauge. Has basic diagnostic functions as well.

http://racediagnostics.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=1_29&products_id=48 (http://racediagnostics.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=1_29&products_id=48)

After I got it installed I did a little review:

https://youtu.be/y3KC8jUIO68 (https://youtu.be/y3KC8jUIO68)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 23, 2016, 02:05:26 pm
Mar 2016

Just maintenance and occasional driving since then, not daily these days.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4232/35929866865_59612c003e_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/WJZXDc)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: Poonmobile on March 25, 2016, 11:02:20 pm
Found a concours pic from 2014

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/Ashvw/Concours%202014/DSC_9849.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/Ashvw/media/Concours%202014/DSC_9849.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: GorGasm on March 28, 2016, 08:39:11 am
Somewhat envious, sure i have seen this around in AKL many times.  Nice work.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on March 28, 2016, 10:08:44 am
Thanks, it's been very much a work in progress. As you can see, the changes were made incrementally and over quite a long period of time. I like to ponder things a bit and have the money in the bank before I spend it. I certainly made mistakes along the way but you learn from those and TBH it won't be to everyones liking either way. Like many of us car people I tend to look after my cars better than myself!
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: tonyoh on March 31, 2016, 10:48:11 pm
Nice post/thread! I think I have followed you a few times over the bridge!
Been keen to hear a bit more on your experiences/thoughts/opinions on the remaps vs standard.
Overall I am quite happy with standard. I did take a chipped one for a drive when looking to buy and it was a bit all or nothing which I did not like much.
thanks for the thread....
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on April 01, 2016, 07:52:59 am
My first remap was like that - full boost at 50% throttle. Bit silly. The one I have now is progressive. With my car it's a bit hard to do an apples with apples comparison because the lighter flywheel I have changes the way the car picks up too.

But seriously I reckon there are more bad remap files out there than good ones so if you are happy with standard I would stick with that. Rich who mapped my car seems to have been snowed under for a couple of years now. Was doing lots of work it Europe but haven't heard much about him for a while.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: brendy412 on April 01, 2016, 04:15:58 pm
Great write up and great car ... although I am bias  ;D. 

Nicely spec'd RS4 in the latest Audi Tuner Magazine  :)


Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on February 03, 2018, 03:43:27 pm
Feb 2018. New shoes: RS5 10-spokes (19x9ET24)

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4670/39340149184_6dbdc50337_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22WmxLd)

 (https://flic.kr/p/22WmxLd)
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: Filx on February 03, 2018, 04:06:55 pm
That looks fantastic! OEM+ done right.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: tandy on February 03, 2018, 04:43:08 pm
Nice, have been running the same wheels on my RS4 for 2 years now, they really bring the car up to date
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on February 04, 2018, 10:58:23 am
That looks fantastic! OEM+ done right.
Thanks mate!
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on February 04, 2018, 11:01:02 am
Nice, have been running the same wheels on my RS4 for 2 years now, they really bring the car up to date
Oh cool. Are you running 255s or something wider? I went with 255s (Dunlop sportMaxx RT2) and have about 10mm clearance to the rear arm. Probably could have gotten away with 265s but some tyre brands are wider than others so it's a gamble.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: rambo_005 on February 04, 2018, 01:47:51 pm
That looks ace. Very tidy.
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: tandy on February 04, 2018, 06:01:49 pm
Oh cool. Are you running 255s or something wider? I went with 255s (Dunlop sportMaxx RT) and have about 10mm clearance to the rear arm. Probably could have gotten away with 265s but some tyre brands are wider than others so it's a gamble.
265/30 with about 8mm clearance to the rear arm
Title: Re: 2001 Audi RS4 Avus Silver
Post by: le mans on February 04, 2018, 09:09:03 pm
265/30 with about 8mm clearance to the rear arm
Good to know, cheers. I'm running 255/30.