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Title: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on January 03, 2018, 12:12:48 pm
it will be interesting to watch this one develop, only 2 videos so far

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSiG7oNXC6w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSiG7oNXC6w)
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: brian on January 03, 2018, 12:29:34 pm
Interesting
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: RobClubley on January 03, 2018, 01:26:21 pm
Love it.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: brian on January 03, 2018, 04:57:34 pm
Gordon Murray has always been a huge fan of the Lotus Elan which got a mention in there, and having owned one for about 15 years myself, can only endorse his enthusiasim (spelling?)
One of those that I wish I still had
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Worms on January 03, 2018, 05:48:38 pm
Thanks :-) Have binge-watched Project Binky... Now I have this to hopefully fill the long gaps between Binky episodes!
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: schattenblau on January 03, 2018, 09:57:53 pm
would love one of those

or an alfaholics 105gtv

 :laugh:
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Gordo on January 04, 2018, 01:39:34 am
Good link, thanks - but a bit unfair to the BOM guys as the Escort is treading common ground but Binky is way out there and is a darned sight more complex project, to put it mildly, and is a spare time project for a just couple of guys in the trade.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on January 04, 2018, 10:06:32 am
Good link, thanks - but a bit unfair to the BOM guys as the Escort is treading common ground but Binky is way out there and is a darned sight more complex project, to put it mildly, and is a spare time project for a just couple of guys in the trade.

you're quite right, but it has to be admitted that Binky is certainly not a simple project and there is a lot of make it up as we go to it, I guess the real comparison will come when they make the IRS for the Escort
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Pristle on January 04, 2018, 12:09:52 pm
Escort aside, what a fantastic workshop. Wouldn't I love for them to work on a particular Audi 80 GTE.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: le mans on January 04, 2018, 01:57:59 pm
Very enjoyable, I could happily spend a few hours watching that.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on January 08, 2018, 11:20:08 am
I've just subscribed to retropower's videos, having seen this Mk2 Golf shell, it's no wonder Gordon Murray chose them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQ1S5EMQK0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMQ1S5EMQK0)

a look around the workshop, HB Viva and Zetec powered Moggy Minor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRYKctWGKRs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRYKctWGKRs)
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on January 22, 2018, 10:39:37 am
vid 3 up now, haven't watched it yet
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: The Red Warrior on January 22, 2018, 05:54:24 pm
vid 3 up now, haven't watched it yet

Cheers 🍻
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Audi do on January 31, 2018, 10:31:19 am
I too have been watching, much impressed with some of their other builds in the background.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Gordo on February 19, 2018, 11:16:15 am
New one up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlRyNsCpM8c
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: RS ZWEI on March 05, 2018, 03:52:14 pm
I met a guy (car painter) with a bit of a car collection. One car he has is a mint 1 owner 2 door Mk1 Escort, a proper 1 lady owner car!
The same guys has a 1 owner 1970's Mitsubishi GTO and 3 Fiat 125 T's plus some others.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on March 19, 2018, 10:07:33 am
ep 4 up now, visit to Cosworth
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Gordo on March 20, 2018, 10:52:01 pm
Actually, that was #5, watched it last night  8)

ATM, I have 3 KBA Cosworth engines, so a bit biased towards that engine company.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on March 21, 2018, 08:06:33 am
Actually, that was #5, watched it last night  8)

ATM, I have 3 KBA Cosworth engines, so a bit biased towards that engine company.

LOL, I was in more haste, less speed mode
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: RS ZWEI on March 21, 2018, 08:47:53 am
Actually, that was #5, watched it last night  8)

ATM, I have 3 KBA Cosworth engines, so a bit biased towards that engine company.

What are you doing with them?
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Gordo on March 21, 2018, 08:08:41 pm
Nothing at the moment, health and finances a bit poorly of late  :( , but do have plans  8).

BTW, that was the designation for the engines they developed for Vauxhall, the (c)20XE, which was rather successful in the BTCC and WTCC Championships.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on March 21, 2018, 08:41:18 pm
is that the 16v slant 4 that was used in the Jensen Healey?
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: brian on March 21, 2018, 08:58:41 pm
is that the 16v slant 4 that was used in the Jensen Healey?

That was the Lotus engine, undeveloped at that point and paved the way for Jensens' demise; later used in the Lotus Elite (1974 edition)
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: RS ZWEI on March 22, 2018, 10:38:36 am
Nothing at the moment, health and finances a bit poorly of late  :( , but do have plans  8).

BTW, that was the designation for the engines they developed for Vauxhall, the (c)20XE, which was rather successful in the BTCC and WTCC Championships.

I thought that might have ben the case. As you may have known Ive owned 4 C20XE cars.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Gordo on March 23, 2018, 01:35:29 am
I didn't - I do know Chad has had a couple, though.
Did you do much by way of modifications?
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: RS ZWEI on March 23, 2018, 09:31:14 am
I didn't - I do know Chad has had a couple, though.
Did you do much by way of modifications?

Na, Chad purchased my Calibra, I think you knew the person who purchased my Mk2 Astra GTE 16V and Ive had 2 Vectra 2000 GSI's.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Gordo on March 23, 2018, 03:59:13 pm
South African chap, panel beater, he turbo'ed it, if it's the same chap - Samir?
Chad sold the calibra to his father, don't know what happened after.
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on April 30, 2018, 09:30:59 am
ep6 up now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtDZHiGIBA8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtDZHiGIBA8)
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Gordo on June 24, 2018, 04:29:18 pm
New one up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJJrDqlp968
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on June 26, 2018, 02:54:34 am
looking forward to the next one, prepaint assembly and test fit, should get a good idea of the final car
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on July 23, 2018, 08:14:00 am
ep 8 up now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfyKi_4dc-4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfyKi_4dc-4)
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on July 23, 2018, 08:46:40 am
it must be quite daunting designing something for someone as knowledgeable and experienced as Gordon Murray, but Murray seems quite relaxed about the whole thing

and it must be quite satisfying to get the positive feedback from him
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: schattenblau on July 23, 2018, 12:22:39 pm
that sport quattro ...  mmmm

what was that ugly car murray arrived in ?
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on July 23, 2018, 03:51:38 pm
didn't see him arrive in a car, but they were walking towards what looked like a KIA Soul as they left, no roof racks so it might have been the EV version
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: schattenblau on July 23, 2018, 04:19:27 pm
that's the one.

 ;)
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on August 20, 2018, 08:28:58 am
they're cracking on  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdKHHB3ndyc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdKHHB3ndyc)

what a mix of wonderful cars there, including a Ro80, I wonder what they're doing with that?
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Worms on August 20, 2018, 04:15:01 pm
a Ro80, I wonder what they're doing with that?

Putting a 13B turbo in it???  :laugh:
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on August 20, 2018, 09:59:26 pm
Putting a 13B turbo in it???  :laugh:

they'd have to dry sump it, Mazda rotaries (back in the day anyway) had huge ugly sumps that hung too low for the Ro80, that's one reason why Ford V4s were preferred, even if they idled like a bag of nails
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: schattenblau on August 24, 2018, 11:35:44 am
the latest nz classic car features a restored escort twin cam.

was it usual to make an air intake out of a muffler ?

(http://i65.tinypic.com/2afd3c0.jpg)

(http://i64.tinypic.com/hvw4cl.jpg)
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: Gordo on August 26, 2018, 02:00:27 am
It may be an OEM design - there are other cars also running that setup, and not just Escorts.
I would suggest they were used to reduce intake noise and, as form follows function, that is why they look like exhaust mufflers, because they do the same job?
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: brian on August 26, 2018, 08:13:18 am
Lotus Cortina had a similar air cleaner set up
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: slowburn on August 27, 2018, 12:25:14 am
It may be an OEM design - there are other cars also running that setup, and not just Escorts.
I would suggest they were used to reduce intake noise and, as form follows function, that is why they look like exhaust mufflers, because they do the same job?

Adolf Loos would approve
Title: Re: Gordon Murray's Escort, slighty more planned approach than project Binky
Post by: the phantom on September 24, 2018, 03:40:32 pm
episode 10 up now